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Originally Posted by
magpye
To answer Wysiwig and an update.
When Kismet first arrived she was crazy about food, the puppies had been fed in a half drainpipe trough and Kismet being the dominant female had been used to fighting to get more food than the other puppies.
I wondered if she'd been started off like this by the breeder - it doesn' t alawys lead to food aggression to humans, (or dogs come to that) but it can do, it can sow the seeds for guarding behaviour and anxiety around food.
I think some breeders need educating as it would really be helpful if pups could be fed separately at feeding times, or at least not set up so they have to fight for food.
So obviously from the time I got her home this was something we worked on. offering treats while she was eating, trying to slow her down, by scattering some of her food, or hand feeding. She wouldn't allow anyone near or to touch her while she was eating and could be seriously aggressive about it, she would wolf hers then try and fight the other two for theirs.
Totally understand your concerns...
We did teach her to stop mid meal so that we could take the bowl and in hindsight that was possibly not the best thing to do, but it was what we were advised by the vet at the time and I guess we live and learn!
It's very hard when you are trying to do the right thing and are given advice by a professional. IMO the advice was wrong, and would cause more stress/anxiety/frustration etc etc...plus it could also have been verging on dangerous advice for yourselves as the owners taking the food away when she got a bit bigger. Vets do sometimes give behavioural advice, and unless they are a qualified veterinary behaviourist (of which there are not that many about!) I wish they'd leave it to the behaviourists.
In the last couple of days we have been part hand feeding, offering treats during mealtimes and giving treats to all the dogs together clearly and in turn and have resumed the training to leave treats on the floor until they are picked up and given. Kismet seems to be settling down again and being less stressed.
Excellent news!
I was very proud of her last night at dinner as she allowed Pharaoh to sniff about in her bed after her dinner with out a growl and this morning allowed Selkie to take her bone that she was finished with. She sat by Selkie and waited patiently for her to get bored before taking it back and hiding it in her bed. So marked improvements.
That is really good, I am not surprised you are proud
. Sounds as if her stress levels have gone right down, which is a great sign. Dogs tend to act and react more "emotionally" when stressed as you probably know
I am optimistic that this will be something we can crack! Thanks to everyone on here for their help and support. Its hard sometimes when you're training but not seeing instant results, or it seems to take a step back like this did, you can start to doubt yourself; and with the best will in the world, we all make mistakes. I just don't want Kismet to ultimately pay for mine!
Well you sound like an excellent owner - you care, and are really trying to help her which is so good to read. I wish you loads of luck with her. If at any time she regresses or things seem to go wrong, I'd suggest contacting an APBC behaviourist for professional advice whilst she's young (I think this has already been suggested) and if you are insured the company may pay out for a consultation.
However it sounds as if things are now going swimmingly an d you won't need this - fingers crossed and loads of luck!
Wys
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