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28-01-2011, 06:58 PM
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I don't. No matter what I choose not to support P&G in any way shape or form.

Still waiting for my apology and at the very least your acceptance that your statement was in fact in correct.
Really? Thats an interesting statement. Do you buy from ANY supermarket, or even PAH? I mean they all sell IAMs, and also the P&G products are everywhere. Its a bit hypocritical to you do not "support" them, when of course you do! Unless you dont shop anywhere of course, in which case I apologise.
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28-01-2011, 07:02 PM
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But they are one and the same thing, just called something different. I was being old skool by calling it Iams. My point is still correct and you (quite nastily) said otherwise.

I haven't once criticised you in this thread or accused show folk of animal cruelty yet you have replied to all my posts with a very nasty tone, refused to accept that I was right on this point and then got personal by trying to say I have no credibility because Woody is my first ever dog.

In addition, you threatened to leave the forum and to put me on ignore. Neither of which you have followed through. Who's attention seeking here.
No, you just told people their dogs are overheated and stressed!
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28-01-2011, 07:04 PM
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I think you need to apologise---I have just checked the trade stands.

You were right with your first statement.

You can buy Iams at Crufts----I thought I had seen it on previous years but until you got to splitting hairs I didn't bother to check.

Now I have, and you were, and are, wrong.

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Is it on the Eukanuba stand I've never seen it. I know you cant buy it at the rest of the general champ shows.
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28-01-2011, 07:05 PM
Pidge.
Are you claiming that the vets that judge condone cruelty?
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28-01-2011, 07:18 PM
http://www.crufts.org.uk/tradestands2010
List of trade stands from last years Crufts, unless I'm missing it Can't see Iams anywhere.
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28-01-2011, 07:23 PM
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Is it on the Eukanuba stand I've never seen it. I know you cant buy it at the rest of the general champ shows.
No it isn't.

I am sorry but to be as unpleasant as you were with no basis except what you had seen is really not nice.
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28-01-2011, 07:26 PM
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No it isn't.

I am sorry but to be as unpleasant as you were with no basis except what you had seen is really not nice.
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Yet Pidge chose to be "unpleasant" without "seeing" at all!
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28-01-2011, 07:27 PM
Well its there this year and I have seen it before so its not a first.

They used to sponsor mini agility.

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28-01-2011, 07:27 PM
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Yet Pidge chose to be "unpleasant" without "seeing" at all!
I thought she had been to Crufts---sorry my mistake.

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28-01-2011, 08:11 PM
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Maybe I didn't make the 'not' clear enough, you menace!

Hmm, why am I not a fan. Well, where to begin -

*Allowing Iams sponsorship and products to be sold.
*Allowing people convicted of animal cruelty to judge.
*Allowing people convicted of animal cruelty to win categories.
*Breeding issues - nowhere near enough action has been taken on this issue so I feel that the KC and therefore Crufts obviously do not support the need as they claim to.

In addition, I'm just not a fan of showing. I've been twice now with work and the last time was the final straw. Seeing active, working breeds sitting in a hot (it's always boiling in there) warehouse/building, on a little wooden shelves for up to 12 hours with no fresh air or place to pee other than a pile of saw dust where every other dog goes turned my stomach. I can't see why anyone would want to subject their beloved pet to that kind of torment.
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No, you just told people their dogs are overheated and stressed!
No she said when she was there that is what she saw - not that people ON HERE's dogs were like that
She commented on one foto and then retracted the comment when the owner said the dog was smiling

You were not where she was when she was there so you cannont say she did or did not see overheated stressed dogs
She didnt say YOUR dogs were - just the ones she had seen, and she didnt like to see that

and it is a fair point to say who would want to put their pet tru that torment
Noone would, and you are all happy that the conditions your dogs are in are fine, you all make sure your dogs are always attended and happy
so the comment was not aimed at any of you
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