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05-01-2011, 02:56 PM
I'm sure the expert husky and mal people who come on here would be able to contribute something more technical, but I thought this summed it all up quite well really.

I just hope your friend's OH pays attention and learns!
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05-01-2011, 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Leanne_W View Post
It's these kind of people who are filling up our rescue centres. They seem to think dog ownership is a whim or something which can be taken lightly. They dont seem to understand what caring for a dog properly and responsibly actually entails. People like us cannot warn such people, they actually have to live it in order to believe it, at the dogs expense of course.

It's something close to my heart as my sister has a dog when she shouldnt. I love my sister but she has her many faults. Picture the scenario...She's had pets in the past which it shortly fell on me or my mum to look after (when she lived at home). She now has 4 children, a partner and they live in a 2 bed ground floor council flat. They then added a boxer to the mix. Not just any boxer but a deaf one. That poor dog spends the entire time in a tiny kitchen with nothing to do. It doesnt get to lounge in the garden as it's communal and the gate isnt secure. The kids arent allowed to go in and play with the dog and it gets walked once a week if it's lucky. They frequently spend the whole day out from morning til evening and leave the dog at home. The boxer is 2 and so far, has had virtually no life and no socialisation.
We visited Xmas day and I spent most of my time in the kitchen playing with the dog. My sister knew I would have noticed the overgrown claws so felt she had to make an observational remark about them. The poor dog didnt know what to do first when I entered the kitchen, she was that hyped up.

We do our best to convince my sister she needs to rehome the dog to a boxer rescue but she refuses to see it's in the dogs best interest. It was her partner who chose to have a dog but alas, it's not grown into the status symbol he wanted and it's deafness doesnt do his street cred much good neither.

It pains me to know there are dogs in such homes where they are viewed as nothing more than a commodity. What a shameful waste of a life.
O gosh, that will give me nightmares! Isn't it awful when you go one to one in a situation like the one you describe, and the poor dog is climbing up the walls, doesn't know what to do with itself, it cannot look you in the eye, it cannot come to you, it cannot stay away, it desperately WANTS but it knows not what. This is the saddest thing of all - mental abuse can be every bit, if not worse, than physical abuse, and this poor boxer is mentally abused, locked up in his silent world for most of the time. How terribly sad, how I wish I could give him a home as I bet you do!

My daughter is like your sister. Her chihuahua would never get walked if it weren't for OH and me. She shouts at it one minute, and coos over it the next, IMO she is not fit to have pets. Despite her, the dog is amazingly well balanced, becoming pretty obedient and surprisingly unsnappy. When she moves back to wherever she moves to, I will be very reluctant to let the dog - or the cat for that matter - go with her
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05-01-2011, 03:05 PM
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Well all I can say is OH DEAR! As to be honest words actually fail me and if I start to rant...........well I may be here for some time

What a stupid ignorant man and I hope to goodness he NEVER gets a dog

( oh and by the way I gave Ozzy a training manual and he read it from cover to cover and is now the worlds most obedient dog,no training needed.............I wish!!!)
Off thread I know ... but is that very posh, aristocratic looking spaniel in your Avatar Ozzy? He looks incredibly snooty and grand if it is!! and very beautiful and silky!
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05-01-2011, 03:39 PM
sometimes when walking budski someone will say they are going to get one I always advise against it , because if i knew then what i know now, i would have got a staffie or mutt
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05-01-2011, 03:43 PM
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I found this in just a few seconds on t'internet:

Alaskan Malamute And Siberian Husky Comparison
January 8th, 2009 admin

Alaskan Malamute or Siberian Husky?
I think to buy any of these dogs. I live with my only daughter, 16, and myself. I work pretty long days away from being an animal, starting at 12:30 arriving at 18:00. My daughter attends normal school hours, 09:00-15:15. She walks to the house that is over 20 minutes and then stay in the house to be able to take care of the dogs, either indoor activities or go for walks. We live in a house with three bedrooms, a room is empty and is very broad, the whole house is great. However, the front and gardens back are small in comparison, but the ideal nearby fields. We also have a british short hair kitten. I've never had a dog before, and nobody in my family either, and theres no experience. I would be grateful if you could help me, because these two dogs are dogs always have my girls Drempt. Thank you.

The way you describe your situation, you should not get all the breeds. OR ANY North race for this question. Do not get me wrong, the Siberian Husky is a large breed of dog, and I would not have anything, but ask yourself, why do you want a Husky? Because of a couple of movies maybe? It seems that if you have done enough homework race. These are not "starter" dogs by any stretch of the imagination. They require a very experienced owner! Huskies are a special breed which certainly is not for everyone. Yes, they are beautiful. Everyone loves them until they find one and how much work they really are. Then they find themselves in shelters or worse through no fault of their own. They have many good points and bad. Some good points: 1. They love all men of all ages. 2. They love company. 3. They are extremely intelligent. 4. They are easygoing and forgiving. 5. They own with little or no "doggy" smell. Some people are allergic to other breeds can live with Huskies. 6. They are generally calm. They rarely bark except in play, but "talk" or howl like their wolf ancestors for no reason. 7. They do not need much food. (Get a good fuel) 8. They are honest. Their body language and voice can be taken at face value 9. They are not picky eaters and eating almost everything that does eat first. But they require a good diet. (See No. 6 below) 10. They usually get adjusted with other canine good, but they face a challenge if offered. Some negative points: 1. They love people …. no people. It is sometimes seen as a lack of loyalty. 2. I do not think there is a type of dog that could be friendlier than a Husky. A Husky may alert you by his actions (running a door or window etc.) but it is not a watchdog by an effort if the imagination. Instead, he will invite the evil within and show him where the good stuff. And then help to create! In the breeding and I doubt you can train them otherwise. Even if you abuse (we have several that were very abused) they do not get to say … they are just a bit away from you. It is possible that they may (or not) defend yourself against an attacker (more likely with an animal attacker). It may very well have a deterrent to someone looking to bad things …. a wolf "hungry-looking" dog looking back at them through the window …. 3. They have a strong desire to run. This was high in the course of several hundreds of generations. It can not be formed from them in a few months of obedience classes. They must be kept in a secure area. And taken in open areas on a leash. They are Escape Artists, like a hairy Houdini. They have been known to jump or climb over 6 feet fences. If they can not go on it, they will go below. 4. They are extremely intelligent and mischievous. You have to be smarter than they are to stay before them. Do not laugh. It is true, they are smarter than most people. 5. They are too strong and independent wanted to do through obedience training. (See # 4 above). They know and understand the command, but if they do not see the point of execution, they will not. 6. They are very enthusiastic and efficient hunter / killers. 7. They must be kept busy. A BORED HUSKY Husky is a destructive! (See No. 10 below about) 8. They shed. A LOT! All year. Then twice a year or more, they will "blow" their coats. This takes shedding to a whole new level. 9. They dig …. A LOT! You can rent your garden to NASA to train astronauts. 10. They play hard! Very tough. And sometimes they can draw blood. But it is still play. 11. They need company, either human or canine, and will be miserable without it. Although they can survive outdoors they really need to be within their "pack" … …. YOU! 12. They can live 12-14 years. Maybe more. This is not a bad thing. But can you live with a child 2 years so long? That's what it's like with a Husky in your life. 13. By propagating evil, they may be prone to hypothyroidism displaysia hip, both juvenile and adult onset cataracts, Zinc deficiency disorders, hypothyroidism and other health problems when it is not great. They may also have separation anxiety which can trigger the same destructive behavior. Another When do your homework! Know what you're getting. If you can not meet the challenge unfortunately it will be the Husky that pays the price. If you decide that you can meet the challenge, go through a rescue group. Do not go to a pet store or backyard breeder.
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thanks! i c&p'd this and emailed it across lol
I bet you he only reads the good points
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05-01-2011, 03:45 PM
OMG! What a horrible man! I thought people like that went for staffys anyway........and gave that poor breed a bad reputation! Lets hope he's all mouth and no action but at least if he does get the dog, you'll be on hand to keep an eye. Mind you, any sensible breeder would refuse him point blank! Fingers crossed !
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05-01-2011, 03:53 PM
OK..wahts the saying..a picture says a 1000 words>?? or somthing to that effect..

email him this

http://www.siberianhuskyclub.com/huskydamage
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05-01-2011, 04:21 PM
God, I really hope this silly man changes his mind about getting a Husky!! It makes me so mad when stupid people get a dog, or any animal, on a whim!

Leanne _W I feel so sorry for that Boxer. Is there ANYTHING you can do to get it out of this horrible, horrible situation?
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05-01-2011, 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by tiggers mum View Post
OMG! What a horrible man! I thought people like that went for staffys anyway........and gave that poor breed a bad reputation! Lets hope he's all mouth and no action but at least if he does get the dog, you'll be on hand to keep an eye. Mind you, any sensible breeder would refuse him point blank! Fingers crossed !
You'd be surprised wht a wide berth you're given walking a sibe more so than a staffs from my foster experience nearly all dog owners would call theirs back if off lead and go as far away as poss from us Now to start with this was justified because she would rear up and snarl and air snap but this soon stopped and she became a sweety ,her first year had been kept as a guard dog. I got lots of people asking if she was a wolf with nervous looks on their faces. She was rehomed to someone who had a cat..... I wasn't convinced it would work....the cat ran away the people hadn't heeded that she was food possesive they were told lots they gave her a bone and wondered why all hell let loose when their other dog went up to her She lasted 3 days but got a great home eventually with a boyfriend sibe and an owner who was going to race them The cat would concern me too i have read that some sibes have been brought up with them no probs for years and then killed them! Agree with everyone sounds like a right Pr**t and pity the dog that ends up their. The idea that a breeder will refuse is nice but I bet he wont go to a reputable breeder just someone churning them out for the money
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05-01-2011, 04:57 PM
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OK..wahts the saying..a picture says a 1000 words>?? or somthing to that effect..

email him this

http://www.siberianhuskyclub.com/huskydamage
Thats brilliant i love it and shows just what a bored dog can do lol.

I have a friend who is also very similar, it goes wrong and the dogs ends up back with the breeders (3 dogs as teenagers have gone for her). She then announced before christmas about her new arrivals, and there was pictures of 2 new dogs You can only advise some people and keep your fingers crossed that they listen.
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