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05-01-2011, 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Tinglesnark View Post
just wish the set of idiots that know nothing about animals in general would stick to other "hobbies" and "trophies"
Like getting paralytic on a Friday & Saturday night and picking up a few trophies while in Police cells overnight.
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05-01-2011, 01:18 PM
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Does anybody know any documents/ information.... that explain what huskies/ mals are all about. More a negitive view on them... to try and put people off getting one?

I know someone who is planning on getting a husky as their first time dog....
A "warts and all" factual guide, what a good idea. I would think if your friend googled "Siberian Husky Alaskan Malamute warts and all" or something similar, there must be plenty of pro's and con's out there. Louise who comes on here, Muddiwarx, Tupacs, Vicki, there are many sibe and mal owners would have a better idea than myself I am sure.
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05-01-2011, 01:19 PM
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Like getting paralytic on a Friday & Saturday night and picking up a few trophies while in Police cells overnight.
HAHAH and from the football matches that they attend whilst sodden with drink...you know, scalps and teeth etc..
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05-01-2011, 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
A "warts and all" factual guide, what a good idea. I would think if your friend googled "Siberian Husky Alaskan Malamute warts and all" or something similar, there must be plenty of pro's and con's out there. Louise who comes on here, Muddiwarx, Tupacs, Vicki, there are many sibe and mal owners would have a better idea than myself I am sure.
If you can get your friend to actually read and process it good luck
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05-01-2011, 01:21 PM
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Tsk you lazy teens....pah....
I beg your pardon - I am not lazy!!!

Well not much - my next dog is going to be a greyhound
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05-01-2011, 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
A "warts and all" factual guide, what a good idea. I would think if your friend googled "Siberian Husky Alaskan Malamute warts and all" or something similar, there must be plenty of pro's and con's out there. Louise who comes on here, Muddiwarx, Tupacs, Vicki, there are many sibe and mal owners would have a better idea than myself I am sure.
I found this in just a few seconds on t'internet:

Alaskan Malamute And Siberian Husky Comparison
January 8th, 2009 admin

Alaskan Malamute or Siberian Husky?
I think to buy any of these dogs. I live with my only daughter, 16, and myself. I work pretty long days away from being an animal, starting at 12:30 arriving at 18:00. My daughter attends normal school hours, 09:00-15:15. She walks to the house that is over 20 minutes and then stay in the house to be able to take care of the dogs, either indoor activities or go for walks. We live in a house with three bedrooms, a room is empty and is very broad, the whole house is great. However, the front and gardens back are small in comparison, but the ideal nearby fields. We also have a british short hair kitten. I've never had a dog before, and nobody in my family either, and theres no experience. I would be grateful if you could help me, because these two dogs are dogs always have my girls Drempt. Thank you.

The way you describe your situation, you should not get all the breeds. OR ANY North race for this question. Do not get me wrong, the Siberian Husky is a large breed of dog, and I would not have anything, but ask yourself, why do you want a Husky? Because of a couple of movies maybe? It seems that if you have done enough homework race. These are not "starter" dogs by any stretch of the imagination. They require a very experienced owner! Huskies are a special breed which certainly is not for everyone. Yes, they are beautiful. Everyone loves them until they find one and how much work they really are. Then they find themselves in shelters or worse through no fault of their own. They have many good points and bad. Some good points: 1. They love all men of all ages. 2. They love company. 3. They are extremely intelligent. 4. They are easygoing and forgiving. 5. They own with little or no "doggy" smell. Some people are allergic to other breeds can live with Huskies. 6. They are generally calm. They rarely bark except in play, but "talk" or howl like their wolf ancestors for no reason. 7. They do not need much food. (Get a good fuel) 8. They are honest. Their body language and voice can be taken at face value 9. They are not picky eaters and eating almost everything that does eat first. But they require a good diet. (See No. 6 below) 10. They usually get adjusted with other canine good, but they face a challenge if offered. Some negative points: 1. They love people …. no people. It is sometimes seen as a lack of loyalty. 2. I do not think there is a type of dog that could be friendlier than a Husky. A Husky may alert you by his actions (running a door or window etc.) but it is not a watchdog by an effort if the imagination. Instead, he will invite the evil within and show him where the good stuff. And then help to create! In the breeding and I doubt you can train them otherwise. Even if you abuse (we have several that were very abused) they do not get to say … they are just a bit away from you. It is possible that they may (or not) defend yourself against an attacker (more likely with an animal attacker). It may very well have a deterrent to someone looking to bad things …. a wolf "hungry-looking" dog looking back at them through the window …. 3. They have a strong desire to run. This was high in the course of several hundreds of generations. It can not be formed from them in a few months of obedience classes. They must be kept in a secure area. And taken in open areas on a leash. They are Escape Artists, like a hairy Houdini. They have been known to jump or climb over 6 feet fences. If they can not go on it, they will go below. 4. They are extremely intelligent and mischievous. You have to be smarter than they are to stay before them. Do not laugh. It is true, they are smarter than most people. 5. They are too strong and independent wanted to do through obedience training. (See # 4 above). They know and understand the command, but if they do not see the point of execution, they will not. 6. They are very enthusiastic and efficient hunter / killers. 7. They must be kept busy. A BORED HUSKY Husky is a destructive! (See No. 10 below about) 8. They shed. A LOT! All year. Then twice a year or more, they will "blow" their coats. This takes shedding to a whole new level. 9. They dig …. A LOT! You can rent your garden to NASA to train astronauts. 10. They play hard! Very tough. And sometimes they can draw blood. But it is still play. 11. They need company, either human or canine, and will be miserable without it. Although they can survive outdoors they really need to be within their "pack" … …. YOU! 12. They can live 12-14 years. Maybe more. This is not a bad thing. But can you live with a child 2 years so long? That's what it's like with a Husky in your life. 13. By propagating evil, they may be prone to hypothyroidism displaysia hip, both juvenile and adult onset cataracts, Zinc deficiency disorders, hypothyroidism and other health problems when it is not great. They may also have separation anxiety which can trigger the same destructive behavior. Another When do your homework! Know what you're getting. If you can not meet the challenge unfortunately it will be the Husky that pays the price. If you decide that you can meet the challenge, go through a rescue group. Do not go to a pet store or backyard breeder.
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05-01-2011, 01:34 PM
It's these kind of people who are filling up our rescue centres. They seem to think dog ownership is a whim or something which can be taken lightly. They dont seem to understand what caring for a dog properly and responsibly actually entails. People like us cannot warn such people, they actually have to live it in order to believe it, at the dogs expense of course.

It's something close to my heart as my sister has a dog when she shouldnt. I love my sister but she has her many faults. Picture the scenario...She's had pets in the past which it shortly fell on me or my mum to look after (when she lived at home). She now has 4 children, a partner and they live in a 2 bed ground floor council flat. They then added a boxer to the mix. Not just any boxer but a deaf one. That poor dog spends the entire time in a tiny kitchen with nothing to do. It doesnt get to lounge in the garden as it's communal and the gate isnt secure. The kids arent allowed to go in and play with the dog and it gets walked once a week if it's lucky. They frequently spend the whole day out from morning til evening and leave the dog at home. The boxer is 2 and so far, has had virtually no life and no socialisation.
We visited Xmas day and I spent most of my time in the kitchen playing with the dog. My sister knew I would have noticed the overgrown claws so felt she had to make an observational remark about them. The poor dog didnt know what to do first when I entered the kitchen, she was that hyped up.

We do our best to convince my sister she needs to rehome the dog to a boxer rescue but she refuses to see it's in the dogs best interest. It was her partner who chose to have a dog but alas, it's not grown into the status symbol he wanted and it's deafness doesnt do his street cred much good neither.

It pains me to know there are dogs in such homes where they are viewed as nothing more than a commodity. What a shameful waste of a life.
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05-01-2011, 01:38 PM
I like to think I am reasonably experienced with dogs and doG knows I'm ALWAYS up for really long walk whatever the weather but, I still would not have a husky type.
Not because I don't like them. I do. I just don't think I could cope with one. This is coming from the woman who has a total headcase of a wirehaired pointer.
Mind you. I joke that when I am old and infirm I will get a couple of malamutes and a rigg and they can drag me round. Ha ha.
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05-01-2011, 01:48 PM
Well all I can say is OH DEAR! As to be honest words actually fail me and if I start to rant...........well I may be here for some time

What a stupid ignorant man and I hope to goodness he NEVER gets a dog

( oh and by the way I gave Ozzy a training manual and he read it from cover to cover and is now the worlds most obedient dog,no training needed.............I wish!!!)
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05-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
I found this in just a few seconds on t'internet:

Alaskan Malamute And Siberian Husky Comparison
January 8th, 2009 admin

Alaskan Malamute or Siberian Husky?
I think to buy any of these dogs. I live with my only daughter, 16, and myself. I work pretty long days away from being an animal, starting at 12:30 arriving at 18:00. My daughter attends normal school hours, 09:00-15:15. She walks to the house that is over 20 minutes and then stay in the house to be able to take care of the dogs, either indoor activities or go for walks. We live in a house with three bedrooms, a room is empty and is very broad, the whole house is great. However, the front and gardens back are small in comparison, but the ideal nearby fields. We also have a british short hair kitten. I've never had a dog before, and nobody in my family either, and theres no experience. I would be grateful if you could help me, because these two dogs are dogs always have my girls Drempt. Thank you.

The way you describe your situation, you should not get all the breeds. OR ANY North race for this question. Do not get me wrong, the Siberian Husky is a large breed of dog, and I would not have anything, but ask yourself, why do you want a Husky? Because of a couple of movies maybe? It seems that if you have done enough homework race. These are not "starter" dogs by any stretch of the imagination. They require a very experienced owner! Huskies are a special breed which certainly is not for everyone. Yes, they are beautiful. Everyone loves them until they find one and how much work they really are. Then they find themselves in shelters or worse through no fault of their own. They have many good points and bad. Some good points: 1. They love all men of all ages. 2. They love company. 3. They are extremely intelligent. 4. They are easygoing and forgiving. 5. They own with little or no "doggy" smell. Some people are allergic to other breeds can live with Huskies. 6. They are generally calm. They rarely bark except in play, but "talk" or howl like their wolf ancestors for no reason. 7. They do not need much food. (Get a good fuel) 8. They are honest. Their body language and voice can be taken at face value 9. They are not picky eaters and eating almost everything that does eat first. But they require a good diet. (See No. 6 below) 10. They usually get adjusted with other canine good, but they face a challenge if offered. Some negative points: 1. They love people …. no people. It is sometimes seen as a lack of loyalty. 2. I do not think there is a type of dog that could be friendlier than a Husky. A Husky may alert you by his actions (running a door or window etc.) but it is not a watchdog by an effort if the imagination. Instead, he will invite the evil within and show him where the good stuff. And then help to create! In the breeding and I doubt you can train them otherwise. Even if you abuse (we have several that were very abused) they do not get to say … they are just a bit away from you. It is possible that they may (or not) defend yourself against an attacker (more likely with an animal attacker). It may very well have a deterrent to someone looking to bad things …. a wolf "hungry-looking" dog looking back at them through the window …. 3. They have a strong desire to run. This was high in the course of several hundreds of generations. It can not be formed from them in a few months of obedience classes. They must be kept in a secure area. And taken in open areas on a leash. They are Escape Artists, like a hairy Houdini. They have been known to jump or climb over 6 feet fences. If they can not go on it, they will go below. 4. They are extremely intelligent and mischievous. You have to be smarter than they are to stay before them. Do not laugh. It is true, they are smarter than most people. 5. They are too strong and independent wanted to do through obedience training. (See # 4 above). They know and understand the command, but if they do not see the point of execution, they will not. 6. They are very enthusiastic and efficient hunter / killers. 7. They must be kept busy. A BORED HUSKY Husky is a destructive! (See No. 10 below about) 8. They shed. A LOT! All year. Then twice a year or more, they will "blow" their coats. This takes shedding to a whole new level. 9. They dig …. A LOT! You can rent your garden to NASA to train astronauts. 10. They play hard! Very tough. And sometimes they can draw blood. But it is still play. 11. They need company, either human or canine, and will be miserable without it. Although they can survive outdoors they really need to be within their "pack" … …. YOU! 12. They can live 12-14 years. Maybe more. This is not a bad thing. But can you live with a child 2 years so long? That's what it's like with a Husky in your life. 13. By propagating evil, they may be prone to hypothyroidism displaysia hip, both juvenile and adult onset cataracts, Zinc deficiency disorders, hypothyroidism and other health problems when it is not great. They may also have separation anxiety which can trigger the same destructive behavior. Another When do your homework! Know what you're getting. If you can not meet the challenge unfortunately it will be the Husky that pays the price. If you decide that you can meet the challenge, go through a rescue group. Do not go to a pet store or backyard breeder.
thanks! i c&p'd this and emailed it across lol
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