she is gorgeous, i love that picture she has such a cute face :smt007

Any breeder who doesn't not do the right thing by their dogs shouldn't breed.
But I cant make a comment on your breeder for a number of reasons.
The most important one is I dont know both sides nor do I know the breeder or the conditons that they keep their dogs in so I cant make a judgement.
And by no means am I calling you a liar, its just that I like knowing bothsides.
there was a guy on a differnt forum that had posted how bad his breeder was because his puppy had to be pts and how himself and his wife was going to take the breeder to court and then post that he had won but he didn't tell the whole story.

That when the breeder realize that one of the pups in the litter that she had raised had a very rare genetic faulty and had to be pts, she contacted everyone telling them what to watch out for and if the pup got sick take it straight to the vet and have them test for this very rare genetic problem.
These people said their pup was fine and left it at that, then the little girl got sick they took her to the vet but never mention what the breeder had said, so the little girl got treated for something altogether different but still didn't respond to the treatment and when they finally did ring the breeder she offered to take the pup back and refund their money and when they said no she even offered to help and again said no because she was their. The breeder had ask if they had rule out the GF and they said no because when they ask the vet about it he had never heard of it.
The breeder then got her vet to ring their and got him to do the test which came back positiveand she was pts.
But at no stage did this person mention any of the above facts itcame to light because someone decided to look at the whole picture, they went straight to the small claims judgements and posted the results, Yes he did get award some money but only up to the point when he refused the offer of the breeder. But not the way he made it sound

So sorry you had such a bad experience with your pup, it must be heart breaking.

What is absolutely vital to remember, though, (regardless of where the dog is advertised) is health screening is everything when it comes to buying a dog. This for me is generally the yard stick for a good dog. If the breeders bother to test the dam and sire before breeding then to me that says they are commited to bettering the breed. Now, no doubt there are some breeders that advertise in free papers that do health test and are good breeders, but the majority will not. For this reason I wouldn't touch the free ads with a barge pole. Like China says sometimes you are unlucky and in your case ,stephy, I think this was very much the case. Don't give up on good quality breeders after one bad experience, IMO you may well be lucky in the free ads, but 9 times out of 10 you won't be. The way I look at it is if you put health first when looking for a pup you won't go far wrong.

I understand that china, but i wouldnt lie i was very upset, and he had a number of things wrong with him, he had a very very very bad heart murmur, flea's and other things.... cant think what its called, its when they wee and it hurts them.....
We wanted to keep him but 2 of the vets at the pratice we go advise us against it cos he was very ill and they said it wouldnt be fair on us and our dogs and we tried to sort something out with the breeders to get our money back cos we couldnt get help with insurance cos we didnt know we could use the insurace as he was only 7 weeks old and they just would not help us and we had to give him back as it wasnt fair on us and our other dogs cos we was told if he got too excited he would have died and that killed me and then we found out he was resold and i pray that he went somewhere where he is an only dog so no other dogs gets him excited and playing too much and he lives a good life.

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