I agree and disagree with the op. I do think most of what he has said is out of his bum, I don't think you need to own a dog just to work them! One of our dogs has retired from working sheep, and has an easy life of sleeping and taking it easy and we have just started working our youngest, and after struggling with him I got advice from the girls and guys on here and it has worked.
And I know I wont be shot down for not knowing something..but I have found that on other threads that some members have been quite bitchy and have made personal attacks towards other people's opinions which has shocked me a bit! But overall these guys are a friendly bunch and are a great support

sorry forgot to tell you all how i taught my dogs to fly with their *wings* today we had great fun- we wet flying past cloud cuckoo land and then flew over to germany to look after some sheep and managed to fly back in time so the dogs could cook me tea

Can some "great " triner tell me how to train ben to go get some lentils to add to the soup?

Well the OP has left the building and we should all be ashamed of ourselves for chasing him away, do you not realise the wealth of knowledge he had. I for one feel Dogsey is a poorer place since he has gone.

Daww...

Troll, please come out from under your bridge. We want to play!

Ooh decisions decisions, should I train them to kill or ice skate.... well, ice skating is a bit of a seasonal thing whereas killing can be done all year round so I think thats got to be the one, we wouldn't want them to be not working now would we

I Do I do awwwwwwwwwww no one to play with now....back to being Billy no mates then

Cool decision

hey it works! I shouted Tanz, Shamus, tanz fur mutter and away he went.