Lets hope these pups are as healthy as can be expected.


Ethical breeders bother because it making our dogs progeny healthier for the future out breeding some of the nastier things in a dogs life,but it also doesnt mean that accidental litters are not healthy.

Yes dawn we agree some people CANT possibly this naive but youd be suprised of some of the things ive come across in years of breeding and owning dogs, I could write a book which would have you in tears, and stitches and im sure youre the same.


When i read her profile i first was mad, then thought maybe this is the first accidental litter, and SHE thought nah not from one mating but youve heard of teenagers thinking they can get pregnant from the toilet seat or "i only done it once"?
"in order to help the dog we must help the owner."



Iagree as i said in order to help the owner you must help the dog, here is a example this poster had a accicental litter coming he felt he didnt get much help and was pming me and when his pups needed help to be bottle fed he emailed myself and we exchanged emails until his pups were well on there way to there new homes,
http://www.dogsey.com/showthread.php?p=931223#post931223
Even went as far as the thread being spilt

The thing is, the dog is now pregnant end of story. So although it is incredibly frustrating to imagine yet another litter of pups ending up in resuce due to an accident, what you have to ask yourself is which is the better way to behave. We have two options:

A] Berate this person for the above therefore alienating them, resulting in valuable knowledge being missed out on, the pups being under socialised, bringing a higher risk of the pups ending up in a rescue centre.....

or......

B] Educate this person on how best to look after the bitch, give helpful advice on how to raise the litter, socialise them and find the right homes for them. Therefore resulting in a higher probability that the pups will live long and full lives with the right family.

..........................................

Please remember, NONE of us were born knowing everything about everything. Imagine going onto a forum asking for help on a subject you know next to nothing about and receiving some of the replies that have been given here. Personally I find it very sad, not only for the forum but for those that dare to come here and ask advice. Dogesy may not be as bad as many forums out there, but is that any reason to become complacent?

So back on topic.....

Welcome pixydust, I really hope we can help you with your predicament. First and foremost, definitely buy the Book of the Bitch as suggested, it should help you immensely.

I hope you'll come back for more advice and let us know how you get on.

That's the whole point.

No one agreed to having there own dogs done, but most people agreed to having the new one done if that was what was required.

But colin the damage is done, help the woman with her dogs if you can't do that, dont talk her down i'm sure she feels bad enough already, she came on looking for help, and imo she must need it to ask a bunch of strangers for it.

Sorry I wasn't.

I was just responding to a statement made by bajaluna.

ok colin lets not split hairs, it is her own dog and yes she hasnt had it very long,however she thought the male was neutered,it is a dog with lots of hair and maybe its got small knicknacs,(I didnt realise my OH wasnt neutered till after the wedding )so I agree with ZB just help give her what she needs to get thru this.

ok nuff said lets hope she comes back and lets us know how she is, we know she is pregnant and due round 20th december not for all t in china would I want to be in her house over christmas, I just pray the wee bitch delivers her pups ok and all is fine with mom and pups and if she needs a hand she can come here for it.

I Show and work my dogs, so no I'm not just a pet owner.

As I said I show my dogs etc, and am responsible enough to keep dogs of the opposite sex, so no need to neuter unless I choose to.

Enough splitting of hairs and picking at my profile anyway, this is just childish comparisons.

Back on topic.

Can we please keep the thread on topic. Off topic posts have been deleted.

I have to say I am quite saddened to read some of the responses to this thread the OP came here looking for help, and what she got was criticism and abuse.

While I agree that it is irresponsible to allow an entire bitch and and entire male to reach each other during and just after the bitches season, what's done is done, and while it may help the OP in the future, no amount of lecturing is going to change what has happened already.

PixyDust I just want to say that I wish you the best of luck with your bitches pregnancy and with the puppies. Please don't be afraid to come back to us for help should you require it. There are plenty of users on this site who will offer you help and advice without judgement.

xxx