The OP said the poor dog had it's throat ripped out and was mutilated...unfortunately that is not an accident.

Sadly, my OH's previous wife died of a brain tumour and he has told me in the past how it changed her personality, even before the pain really kicked in. When it did, the pain is just unbelievable apparently, only morphine will control it. It doesn't bear thinking about a dog having a tumour, who cannot tell you how he is suffering.

I remember when I was 16 or so we had a bloodhound who fitted. Our labrador would frequently attack him and savage him badly, it is a horrible thought but nature, as I have said before, is red in tooth and claw, and these our animals at the end of the day, however much some people might like to think of them as extensions of ourselves.

Please don't blame your self. I just remembered one time when Bara and Rianna did have a bit of a tiff. Bara caught Rianna's ear tip, there was a huge amount of blood, it was in the snow and it looked bad.

One of Dannys fangs could easily have pierced Bessies artery and from that second she would have had little time to live, as I was saying before it could have been an accident.

The trouble is that if it was two humans, one trips and has a knife in their hand and it enters an artery we have phones and ambulances and hospitals, dogs don't have any of this if we are not there at the time.

Simplistic thinking maybe, I'm sure I'll get some stick for saying it but I feel I should say it.

You are not to blame, how could you see it comming you said he hadn't been aggressive before.

Thankyou Losos....xxx

This must have been traumatic for you but please don't do anything in a rush. I first of all thought of Bessie having a fit but you won't ever know that.

Have Danny checked by a vet and don't be too hard on yourselves or him. My rescue Beardie will redirect onto my older boy if he gets wound up since this started they are in different rooms when I'm out.

Again so sorry this has happened.

what a nightmare, i'm so sorry i know words cannot help at the moment.
I have no idea what i would do, its such a high level of aggression that its very serious. However, it is not your fault, never is it your fault. Dogs are animals, and like any animals (even humans) things like this happen.
It is just so tragic I am thinking of you all.

I do not know what i would do, to lose one dog is hard. but to lose two.. But every time you look at him would you be reminded of what happened?

I would certainly get him vet checked out first, just as most of the others have suggested. It could be a number of different medical reasons as to why he reacted in such a sudden and severe attack. This could be from a hormonal imbalance, neuroligical condition or even if he is sore/hurting somewhere, and the other dog did something to trigger this feeling. (like brushing ears, or stepping on paws etc.)

My second guess could be that maybe your poor collie was not feeling well, and possibly collapsed or had a seizure. Dogs can sometimes react in ways which seem aggressive when this happens in a bid to wake the other up.
(Does anybody remember the labrador which seriously mauled the ladies face, it got put to sleep and then it turned out he was trying to wake her up from an epileptic fit.) For all you know, he may not have been acting in a malicious way at all.

For now, definitely have a think on it. Could you trust him around dogs on walks, and even with your other dogs. If yes, then you are a very strong, brave person and i do admire you for giving him a chance.
Thinking is the best cure, i suggest a nice hot bubble bath with some radox, and then a good nights sleep.

Thinking of you all, i dont know what else to say. I have no idea how i would react. But you are strong, and you can get through this. Just do what your instincts tell you, and what feels right.

*Big Hugs*

I leave my lurcher with my 14 year old Samoyed all the time. She could fit, he could attack, she could go crazy and attack him... There is nothing you could have done to prevent it...

I try to imagine how I would feel if thus was pharaoh. I remember when I brought my now gone jackjack home from the vets after he had had a fit and terrible episode with his blood, pharaoh attacked him. I was there and pulled them apart and jackjack limped on for another couple if days before his blood condition deteriorated and I made the decision to have him put to sleep... But pharaoh saw the severity of the problem before I did. He knew it was jackjacks time that there was nothing more that could be done and he acted in a completely natural way.


If selkie had a fit, or if pharaoh sensed something was truly wrong, maybe he would act. Your dog had never done anything like thus before, they were z loving pack... Maybe there is something wrong with danny, maybe there was something seriously wrong with bessie and he made the only decision he could in your absence... I don't know... It's really hard. You weren't there and we'll never know what truly happened... But I think if it were me... After I ruled out something wrong with pharaoh I would assume something was really wrong with selkie and he did what he could... I would separate him so he never had to make that decision again, but I would Hope I could forgive him for it and wouldn't assume he was 'just a killer' or 'had a taste for it'. He acted in a way that for what ever reason seemed right for him at the time. He must have had a reason... But it may be hard for us to see with our human sensibilities what that reason might be...

I am so sorry for the tragic loss if your darling bessie... You will make the decision that is right for your pack and family. I wish you every strength for whatever you decide.

I really cannot imagine a worse scenario than this with dogs and feel so sorry for you and your husband.

Please don't think you are at fault or caused this. You'll probably never get to the bottom of it but need to consider the future carefully.

I am just so sorry. I can't even begin to imagine what you must be going through. I have nothing constructive to add, as I have no idea what I would do in that situation. Big hugs to you!