I ain't scared, I'm a hairy a***d trucker, bring it on!

hugs from us to

Yes the "flat" is the "submit", and yes I taught him it specifically to stop the barking at the tv when animals are on. My OH works nights and is understandably not best chuffed to be woken by Syd in full guard dog mode.
Syd is actually a clever git and he gets it really quickly. By this stage he already had a huge repetoire of commands that I taught him for fun as a pup, lets face it a Dobermann doesn't have much call for a commando crawl I just progressed from the commands he already knew, down, side, it was easy to achieve the submit every time he raised his head, I put it back down.

What do PRO CMers think of the use of food in CollieMads Positive Clip, He actually was "training" the dog here.

So we have Food Reward, Postive reinforcement & training, From CM. I LOVED this as is how i want dogs treated & brought on,

I have a "noooo.... Right down...Flat" same thing!!

IMO this would have worked well with jonbee, to BUILD up the trust, to "teach" the dog the position & desired behaviour, to allow the dog to "achieve" something & be behaving & to allow the handler to gain control in a out of control situation!

have no problem with food reward, just dont like to see it when people do the sit treat down treat stay treat and so on

and in his books he will tell you that all of those things can work, just not for every dog in every situation.

Is that for me? ive lost the plot?

O/T Poor Tarn
he is a lovely OB CH Magic Sunday Grandson & is all white with a black tri patch on his head & bum, That line with that colouring are well known for being subseptible to bllod related cancers. Hes being having lumps taken off & analysed but sadly they are just secondry tumours & the primary is a massive tumour filled with blood & if it pops hes going to bleed to death, obviously he cant get better & strain could cause a rupture, what a horrid situation. Poor sue shes in her 60s & lives on her own & has just lost her old girl a few months ago

I do to teach the exercise & then to reward , but not to bribe. Theres a really crappy vidoe on here somewhere of me training my puppy with treats, in the ob section somewhere, which shows how i use food rewards, obvisley you cant use them when competing so my dogs have to learn to apply themselves without them!

for your friend , think we are all loosing the plot