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18-04-2008, 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by mishflynn 
That is the BEST CM Clip ive ever seen, Excellent, CM was Presceptive & spot on, i really liked him in that clip & he DIDNT keep banging on about energy!!!! Marvelous. I also liked the way the dogs were all milling around, i esp liked the way he kept Gavin moving. THIS is dog training!!!!
Loved they way he rewarded through food & sex, tons of positive reinforcement instead of FORCING the dog to contront his fears (as ive seen him do with other dogs!0 Perhaps CM is LEARNING!!!!!!
Cheers CollieMad!!!
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18-04-2008, 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by bullyboy
i have no dout that would work but it would be too expencive to get someone in for that amount of time
Correct dog management CAN be time consuming, & if the owners are too stupid to do it themselves expensive.
Thats what i would do anyway, as far as im concerned in training, feeding, vet care etc etc, the BEST option is the ONLY option no matter the time or expense costs. I dont think dogs should be short changed
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18-04-2008, 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by colliemad
right mish, you wanted a positive clip and here is one for you! He is actually trying to interact with this dog and rewarding it with food
this is why he confuses me, as I said earlier sometimes I think that he doesn't like dogs and then other times.......the clip you want is a pic of a pitbull in a cage, it's the second one along the bottom and the dog is called gavin
http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...ideos/02766_01
Yes it looked good, I would have started with the sound quieter and built it up but in the main it was a pretty good positive way to try and help the dog
No nonsense about dominence just respecting that the dog had a problem and had a good reason to have that problem and trying to be understanding
And also that he had been taking time to build up a bond with the dog so it trusted him
it was actually nice to see that when the dog was stressed it trusted him enough to come to him for comfort
Interesting to see cesar using food rewards when so many pro CMers seem totaly against food rewards??
(see he dosent have wings but I am not even praising thro gritted teeth)
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18-04-2008, 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by colliemad
I think that is a little unfair as sarah may well not agree with your point of view but she certainly hasn't been what I would describe as unfriendly or rude for that matter
Maybe you need to go and vent at bullyboy with a couple of pm's?
I feel shes EXTREMLEY patronising & rude to me, JMO. She cant say a civil word to me & constantly telling me i know sod all. How patronising is that?
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18-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by mishflynn
I feel shes EXTREMLEY patronising & rude to me, JMO. She cant say a civil word to me & constantly telling me i know sod all. How patronising is that?
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18-04-2008, 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by colliemad
Mish You asked for a positive clip and I put a link on with one, see post 589, have you not seen it yet?
So she came first for a while!! i have put a reply on though!
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18-04-2008, 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by bullyboy
do this one again
I think that is true in many cases but if he wasnt happy with the way it is shown he is now big enough to tell them to get lost - no self respecting doggy person would be happy with representing themselves ina way they are not happy with if it relates to how they deal with dogs
no money or fame would let people post clips edited in ways that made me look like I was treating a dog in a way I didnt like
Sure that might happen once if you are nieve but then you walk!
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18-04-2008, 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by mishflynn
Ive posted a reply somewhere!!!! just had my friend on the phone in tears telling me her 9 yr old Collie (flynns cousin) is going to be PTS tomorrow as hes riddled with Cancer!!!
So she came first for a while!! i have put a reply on though!
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