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30-01-2011, 04:50 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge 
But what are those reasons? If it's definitely never stress or being too hot (or exercise), what is it that makes a dog pant when it's cold and lying still?
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30-01-2011, 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge
They were Springers, Clumbers and German pointers btw. The former of which all just looked so bored and not how I like to see my favourite breed.
I am entitled to feel like that based on what I saw.
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30-01-2011, 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Tassle
Everyone bases their view on personal experience. I would not attend another ring-craft class after witnessing some of the behaviour in the one I went to. DO I tar everyone, no, but you would have to really push me to go to another and even then I would be hyper aware of anything similar happening.
It is personal and colours our own personal views and our own personal opinions.
I have been to bad training classes for agility, odidence and ring classes. I wont stop going to another 'better' one though.
I have been to bad dentist, wont stop me going to one all together.
Do you get my drift - I just fail to see how some one could dismiss something due to one poor experience.
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30-01-2011, 05:57 PM
I've had appalling food and service at a chain restaurant. I'm sure others can't be as awful - have I been to find out? no.
Guess I'm irrational.
Discalimer: In no way am a denegrating any dog related activity in this post.
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30-01-2011, 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs
Ladies this is just a witch-hut and really getting silly to read
everyone is intitled to their oppinion based on their experiences
Pidge has been to crufts and seen it first hand and although her experiences do not match your experiences it dosent mean she isnt alowed to feel that way
It also does not in any way lessen your experience
and everyone else is free to make up their own minds based on what they experience
It is possible that some people were there for the first time the year the lady was showing her dog while another of her dogs was giving birth in the back of the van
This is not usual for crufts and I am sure most people condem what she did
However could you blame someone who had witnised it to have their veiw on crufts coloured by that?
Pidge has mentioned many reasons why she dosent like the show and yet you rip into this one, which is something that you really shouldnt comment on as you were not there and did not see the dogs at the time pidge did
Just because that has not been your experience does not mean that it is not what pidge saw
I am sure you will all admit there might be some showers who are not as caring as you all are and take dogs who do not enjoy showing
They might be few and far between and it may just be bad luck that pidge saw that - but it dosent mean she didnt see it just because its not how you and your dogs are
So can we please stop this petty picking, it dosent help your cause any either
Posts letting us know how proud you are and how happy your dogs are are far more likely to sway a person than ganging up and being petty bullies
When posts give an unrealistic view based on either misunderstanding or an unrepresentative fraction of the whole, I like to try and balance out that view. After all, if no-one challenged some of the posts that have been on here, anyone reading this who had no knowledge of crufts or show dogs may well get a totally wrong impression.
I don't see that as a witch hunt. Or are we only allowed to challenge certain posts on certain subjects or are there certain members that we're not allowed to challenge at all?
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30-01-2011, 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by Sosha
Perhaps your bad dentist was having an off day - would you go back to the same dentist to see if it had improved?
My point was just because of one bad experience in a certain place it doesnt mean all places related to the same thing are also bad.
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30-01-2011, 06:35 PM
Look, I saw what I saw, I felt what I felt I made up my mind not to go again.
Some of you understand where I'm coming from, some of you don't. That's fine. I have no issue with differing opinions. Not at all.
I have issue with the personal comments about me, but those childish enough to make them have been suitably ignored.
Discover Dogs? Please don't get me started on that ;o)
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30-01-2011, 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge
Circles!
Look, I saw what I saw, I felt what I felt I made up my mind not to go again.
Some of you understand where I'm coming from, some of you don't. That's fine. I have no issue with differing opinions. Not at all.
I have issue with the personal comments about me, but those childish enough to make them have been suitably ignored.
Discover Dogs? Please don't get me started on that ;o)
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30-01-2011, 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by DevilDogz
The thing is you dont know what you saw, you 'think' you know what you saw! You saw a dog panting and said it was over heated or stressed..without any clue as to why it was infact panting.
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