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catrinsparkles
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25-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by Jodie View Post
The bookmakers fund the greyhound racing industry in the form of a voluntary levy - 0.6% of all bets paced on greyhounds.
99% of bookmakers profits are generated through the Bookmakers Afternoon Betting Service (BAGS) meetings.
These meetings are not social events but are televised to betting shops and streamed online for betting purposes only.
Is it morally acceptable in the 21st century that live animals are used purely as a betting medium?
No i don't beleive it is acceptable, especially when you consider the amount of dogs retired, injured and not required anymore each year.

I have never been the dogs or put bets on them and never will. Seeing dogs coming into the rescue centres here after being abandoned in the new forest with their ears sliced off was proof to me that often when money is made from animals animals will be the ones who suffer.
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25-09-2008, 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Freyja View Post
Just out if interest there is no betting allowed in whippet racing it is purely for fun nd the chance you may get a rossette and a trophy at the end. I don't think that will ever happen in greyhound racing.

This is very true. We are members of a Whippet racing club - we actually have a Beagle, but the club has a beagle division.

Although it's officially for whippets and beagles, greyhounds, lurchers, terriers etc all come to have a go at chasing the lure. On special fun days any pet dog can have as many goes as it likes chasing the lure.

Most breeds love it. Some need a couple of tries before they know what to do, but then there's no stopping them.

So racing itself is not cruel. I can honestly say there's nothing our dog enjoys more.

However, although I don't know a lot about the details I am aware that there is a tremendous amount of cruelty associated with greyhound racing. The big difference is that whereas the whippets & beagles are much loved pets that are taken to race largely for THEIR benefit, the greyhounds sole purpose in life is often to make money for people. Once they stop making them money they are often considered worthless and there is no regard for their wellfare.

I think I would support banning of betting on greyhounds - although I haven't considered the possible drawbacks.
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25-09-2008, 01:58 PM
I don't think ANY dog should be FORCED to do anything it doens't want to do..
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02-10-2008, 09:46 PM
Welfare ‘HAS GONE TOO FAR’ claims greyhound trainer


02.10.08


Professional trainer Martin Dowman, formerly attached to Doncaster stadium has been found in breech of NGRC rule 174(xi) in that he ‘has treated (a) greyhound or caused or permitted (a) greyhound to be treated with cruelty or in such a manner as to cause the greyhound unnecessary suffering’.


During a routine inspection on 2nd April 2008 by an NGRC Steward, a young black female named Pearly Black aged only 15 months, was found emaciated amongst Dowman’s kennel stock of 28 greyhounds.


According to Dowman, the greyhound had not been eating properly since an earthquake tremor 3 weeks previous and described her as a “very nervous bitch.” Despite being an experienced trainer of 15 years, he saw no need to seek professional help and allowed Pearly Black’s health to deteriorate over the following weeks.

After being forced to seek professional help by the NGRC steward and upon the advice of a veterinary surgeon, Pearly Black was immediately put-to-sleep. According to Dowman, the NGRC believe the puppy should have been euthanased sooner.


When asked about the inquiry and the ‘extenuating circumstances’, Dowman said: “These things shouldn’t happen but we’ve never sought of experienced an earthquake and things like that… I went down to the Inquiry because I thought they were going to crucify me.”


Despite being reprimanded and fined £650 Dowman was “quite happy with the verdict.” And added: “This welfare problem now is in some respects gone too far… It’s hard always for trainers and owners… we all can’t have a Derby dog, if we could it would be brilliant.”


Dowman is the fifth trainer this year to receive a fine and reprimand for causing unnecessary suffering. None of the five trainers had their licenses revoked or were bought before the public courts to face charges of cruelty under the Animal Welfare act.


It appears that not only does the racing industry have a license kill; they also have a license to abuse.
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