register for free
View our sister sites
Our sister sites
Our sister sites
Our sister sites
Bitkin
Dogsey Veteran
Bitkin is offline  
Location: Herefordshire, UK
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 9,634
Female 
 
29-11-2012, 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Brandykins View Post
Loki hated the halti and I didn't like it either. I got a Canny collar, which was much kinder but still didn't like them. I moved to a harness and Loki was fine with that and stopped pulling me Once she learnt to stop pulling me, I changed to a collar and lead and it is me who has to pull her now
I too find that a harness is so very much kinder, and dogs never seem to object to them.
Reply With Quote
Baxter8
Dogsey Senior
Baxter8 is offline  
Location: Somerset UK
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 969
Female 
 
30-11-2012, 08:58 AM
Yes me too - I much prefer the harness for two reasons, firstly when he does pull I don't have to worry about that sensitive front part of his neck and secondly if he does go for another dog or cat I have a very useful and effective handle on his back, I'm stronger than him and can pull him out of trouble if the need arises. My husband once got badly bitten trying to separate two fighting dogs by grabbing the collar of one of them.



Originally Posted by Bitkin View Post
I too find that a harness is so very much kinder, and dogs never seem to object to them.
Reply With Quote
Baxter8
Dogsey Senior
Baxter8 is offline  
Location: Somerset UK
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 969
Female 
 
30-11-2012, 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by Bitkin View Post
Oh yes indeedy..........mine does that too
The funny thing is I was walking him the other day down a residential street and he was popping his head into every gate and between every hedge and a big ginger tom sat on one of the driveways, this cat didn't move a muscle, just sat there with a fixed a steely stare and the stupid dog didn't even notice him! I think he is looking for movement and enjoys the idea of the chase.
Reply With Quote
JulieSS
Dogsey Senior
JulieSS is offline  
Location: South London
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 321
Female 
 
30-11-2012, 01:36 PM
I guess the main thing about a head collar is that the dog can't pull you at all (well, some of them figure out some sort of technique anyway but there is so little power behind it compared to pulling on a collar/harness).
Even my 7 month old one now, if he is wearing a padded harness he is so much stronger than "just" wearing a collar. I can easily see why as it is clearly more comfortable to jump forwards in a harness and put lots of energy into pulling, compared to pulling with his neck.

Ofc I'd prefer him to be the best behaved dog in the world, sadly he isn't at the moment, so there are times every walk when he gets excited and wants to jump around.
I will look into head collars and get him one soon, purely because I don't want to be the neighbourhood idiot who gets pulled about by her dog on occasion!
Reply With Quote
Baxter8
Dogsey Senior
Baxter8 is offline  
Location: Somerset UK
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 969
Female 
 
30-11-2012, 06:11 PM
I find my one pulls the most with the collar and significantly less with the harness.

I use a double ended lead that clips once on his back close to his neck and the second one a little further down towards the middle of his back. Maybe I do have more leverage with two attachments.

I know what you mean about the neighbour that gets pulled around the streets - embarrassing isn't it! My one's not quite that bad but most people sadly turn their nose up at mine whatever he's doing, good or bad, because he's a staffie x (brown brindle) and I suspect most people are making judgements about him - it doesn't seem to bother him though.

Originally Posted by JulieSS View Post
I guess the main thing about a head collar is that the dog can't pull you at all (well, some of them figure out some sort of technique anyway but there is so little power behind it compared to pulling on a collar/harness).
Even my 7 month old one now, if he is wearing a padded harness he is so much stronger than "just" wearing a collar. I can easily see why as it is clearly more comfortable to jump forwards in a harness and put lots of energy into pulling, compared to pulling with his neck.

Ofc I'd prefer him to be the best behaved dog in the world, sadly he isn't at the moment, so there are times every walk when he gets excited and wants to jump around.
I will look into head collars and get him one soon, purely because I don't want to be the neighbourhood idiot who gets pulled about by her dog on occasion!
Reply With Quote
DonnaMcV
New Member!
DonnaMcV is offline  
Location: Manchester, UK
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3
Female 
 
03-12-2012, 05:32 PM
I use The Canny Collar, its not a head collar its a training collar. Its fits on the dog like a standard collar and there is a line that slips over the dogs nose like a horses bridle and then the lead attaches behind the dogs head then you dog get their head being pulled to the side. Its a very gently method but really effective - You can find out more here - www.cannyco.com
Reply With Quote
katygeorge
Dogsey Veteran
katygeorge is offline  
Location: Cheshire, UK
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,387
Female 
 
03-12-2012, 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by Baxter8 View Post
The funny thing is I was walking him the other day down a residential street and he was popping his head into every gate and between every hedge and a big ginger tom sat on one of the driveways, this cat didn't move a muscle, just sat there with a fixed a steely stare and the stupid dog didn't even notice him! I think he is looking for movement and enjoys the idea of the chase.
Hehe phoebe does that. If whatever the small furry is stays very still she dosnt see it
Reply With Quote
Samchico
New Member!
Samchico is offline  
Location: California
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1
Female 
 
07-12-2012, 05:57 AM
Originally Posted by Westie_N View Post
Exactly what Labradork has said.
Head collars are excellent if fitted and used corrently.
New user here. A Brit living in the US now. I've use haltis with several dogs over the last 15 years. I was first introduced to the halti by Roger Mugford the chap who designed them originally. He taught me how to fit and use them. I totally agree with Labradork. If fitted and used correctly they're a great great tool. Of course the dog should be happy and comfortable wearing it as with any other device we ask them to wear.

Sam
Reply With Quote
Jackalyn
Dogsey Senior
Jackalyn is offline  
Location: UK
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 319
Female 
 
07-12-2012, 08:41 AM
I use a dogmatic for my german shepherd kodi, not because she pulls as she walks lovely but as she is so reactive with other dogs it gives me more control. She doesnt seem to mind wearing it and it seems to have a calming effect on her. A worry I have with it though is she has managed to pull herself out of it but then she also has managed to get out of harnesses and collars several times.

I got a dogmatic for my springer spaniel, because I am still trying to train him to walk nicely with not much success but one size was too small, and the next size fitted but he absolutely hated it , he seemed to be really stressed with it and kept licking his lips and every few steps he managed to pull it off his face. I have started to use a control harness with a lead attachment at the front which is a lot better. The only problem is it's so dark in the mornings and evenings that I struggle to put it back on him to go home.

I think all dogs are different and what suits one won't necessary suit another. It's just so expensive trying all the different aids .



Hh
Reply With Quote
Wild storm
Dogsey Junior
Wild storm is offline  
Location: Widnes
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 41
Male 
 
13-12-2012, 03:02 PM
Hi, I use a halti for my weimeraner. Worn correctly my dog isnt in discomfort because he knows if he pulls it will tighten so now he walks with no pull..walking to heel is probly a better option
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 6 of 6 « First < 3 4 5 6


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Haltis - any good ? nadine201 Training 14 31-03-2010 03:27 PM
The Humane Society fosters dlboxerdog General Dog Chat 2 13-01-2008 01:12 PM
Red Haltis Wanted fennash Your Adverts 4 30-04-2005 06:59 AM
Haltis rich c General Dog Chat 38 03-04-2005 10:45 AM
Haltis on staffies?? candie General Dog Chat 29 27-01-2005 02:15 PM

© Copyright 2016, Dogsey   Contact Us - Dogsey - Top Contact us | Archive | Privacy | Terms of use | Top