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20-06-2009, 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anne-Marie 
It sickens me that people breed from dogs with full knowledge that this could be passed onto their progency
They should be made to see in person how distressing it is to see them fitting, perhaps then they would think twice about it & not just thinking about the dosh.
Snorri
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20-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by Snorri the Priest
It's a nightmare when a doggie who has been fit-free for a while gets smacked by it again - there is a perfectly natural inclination to think it is cured. Unfortunately, epilepsy is not curable, but merely controllable. We managed to keep Snorri-dog fit free for periods of years, but it always came back.
The consolation is that Doggy doesn't feel anything during the episode, although he/she may very well feel confused after it.
There are many good websites which offer advice and sympathy: if you look in the Dogsey articles section, you'll find links to some of them.
It's the first I've heard of rectubes not working, but I suppose that, like so many other things, it varies from dog to dog.
All the best to all concerned
Snorri
Again many thanks, I appreciate it.
Take care.
Originally Posted by Brundog
Aww Rose, big huge hugs for you and Loki, hope it eases off soon and she has a peaceful night.
take care,
big hugs
dani
Many thanks Dani. I am shattered but not as shattered as poor Loki is!
Originally Posted by Anne-Marie
OMG how awful having all those fits, you must feel so helpless seeing her go through this again & again.
It sickens me that people breed from dogs with full knowledge that this could be passed onto their progency
They should be made to see in person how distressing it is to see them fitting, perhaps then they would think twice about it & not just thinking about the dosh. Huge hugs to you, it must be utterly exhausting to see her go through all this. Hope the fits stop soon xxxxxxx
Many thanks for your lovely response and wishes.
Take care.
Originally Posted by Shona
I had been keeping everything crossed that it would be a one off, so sorry shes having so many, huge hugs..
just to show how ignorant I am, why does she get ice-cream kibble and meat after a fit?
Aw Shona, after each fit, they get so thirsty and hungry and ice cream brings them round a bit quicker, I believe. Lucky Star would be able to tell you more about the ice cream. Loki, like other dogs who fit, get very hungry - Loki will even eat the kibble on its own and she hates it normally unless something is mixed through it!! She drinks gallons of water to make up for all the water she loses. I believe this is the case with all dogs who fit.
Take care
I will need to put her on a diet next week
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20-06-2009, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anne-Marie
OMG how awful having all those fits, you must feel so helpless seeing her go through this again & again.
It sickens me that people breed from dogs with full knowledge that this could be passed onto their progency
They should be made to see in person how distressing it is to see them fitting, perhaps then they would think twice about it & not just thinking about the dosh. Huge hugs to you, it must be utterly exhausting to see her go through all this. Hope the fits stop soon xxxxxxx
With Rose's Loki, my Loki and others, it does seem to be rafractory epilepsy, where the fits are not able to be controlled properly by drug therapy (even though drug levels may be on the high end).
Originally Posted by Shona
I had been keeping everything crossed that it would be a one off, so sorry shes having so many, huge hugs..
just to show how ignorant I am, why does she get ice-cream kibble and meat after a fit?
The ice cream was highlighted on the Guardian Angels Website, where the sugar and fat content of ice cream is thought to help stabilise blood sugar levels during the night and stave off a fit - if the problem is blood sugar. However, it can also help bring up blood sugar levels after a fit, in order to avoid another one that might come about through low blood sugar levels (brought on by the fits). Only a small amount is required though - about a tablespoon ... Rose, how much are you giving?
http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-.../ice_cream.htm
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20-06-2009, 08:10 PM
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21-06-2009, 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Ramble
Just wanted to give oyu another hug. xxxxxxxxxx
Originally Posted by Lucky Star
The problem is also that is not just the direct parent wth epilepsy that has been used but a dog with epilepsy in the lines, even quite far back. Mode of inheritance isn't known in these dogs but it does seem that it only has to be in the lines.
With Rose's Loki, my Loki and others, it does seem to be rafractory epilepsy, where the fits are not able to be controlled properly by drug therapy (even though drug levels may be on the high end).
A huge amount of energy is expended in a fit and the patient can be ravenous afterwards, so it is useful to offer a small amount of food after a fit. This also brings up the blood sugar levels so that if the fits are down to blood sugar, this may help avoid another one.
The ice cream was highlighted on the Guardian Angels Website, where the sugar and fat content of ice cream is thought to help stabilise blood sugar levels during the night and stave off a fit - if the problem is blood sugar. However, it can also help bring up blood sugar levels after a fit, in order to avoid another one that might come about through low blood sugar levels (brought on by the fits). Only a small amount is required though - about a tablespoon ... Rose, how much are you giving?
http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-.../ice_cream.htm
Originally Posted by random
Oh poor Loki and poor you Rose, I do hope you can get it back under control, poor girl.
Originally Posted by Helena54
Thinking of you tonight Rose before I log off, and I hope you have a better night today, hopefully Loki is well over that phase now and she'll sleep like a baby tonight, and you too I hope! You take care, you'll be in my prayers tonight and Loki.xxxxxxx
Originally Posted by Berger
Oh I'm so sorry you are going through this again. Poor poor Loki and poor you. Hopefully increasing the dose will help and you can get some sleep tonight. Gentle hugs for her xx
Originally Posted by HOWAHKAN
Poor Girlie Hope You Get It Under Control Soon.
Thinking Of You All
I hope so as well IK'''''''''''vv
Many thanks and I hope they clear up as well. Take care.
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