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12-06-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by alexandra 
When i hear Irish Stafford i thing
Controversy over origin, but then picture big staff, with characteristics of such ie, strong, loving, protective, playful,clownish, GORGEOUS!!!!
Alex
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12-06-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by sky_high_bluest
Mr Reid although he owend dogs bought off Shaun Barker, did not own Irish Stafordshire Bull Terriers he owend imported Am staffs aka pit bulls that mr Barker once owned, not his Irish dogs. I have confirmed this info' with mr Barker himself as this did worry me as well. mr Reid started the IKC this is true but never owned Irish bull terriers!
sorry but I have checked this out by speaking to mr barker both via email and on the phone.
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12-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally Posted by Sal
That's interesting info Thanks
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12-06-2007, 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by sky_high_bluest
only one side of the story Sal! not spoke to Mr Reid yet! but I will lol!!! I really want to help clean up this breed of mine! Lovely dogs! big heart and so much love to give!
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12-06-2007, 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by sky_high_bluest
Mr Reid although he owend dogs bought off Shaun Barker, did not own Irish Stafordshire Bull Terriers he owend imported Am staffs aka pit bulls that mr Barker once owned, not his Irish dogs. I have confirmed this info' with mr Barker himself as this did worry me as well. mr Reid started the IKC this is true but never owned Irish bull terriers!
sorry but I have checked this out by speaking to mr barker both via email and on the phone.
Anyhoo, have fun, I'm off to bed, well, after I've tucked the dogs in.
Dawn R.
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12-06-2007, 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by Nursey
You might be right about that Sky high, but the story of the Irish Staff is so convoluted that I doubt the truth will ever surface. Personally I have no special interest they aren't my breed, I just responded to a question asked of anyone and everyone.
Anyhoo, have fun, I'm off to bed, well, after I've tucked the dogs in.
Dawn R.
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12-06-2007, 10:36 PM
ISBT - I think of the Staffie of old, leggier and more athletic. But I don't think APBT. It never even occured to me (until the recent media coverage) that the ISBT could be a cover for APBT and although I think unscrupulous breeders will use the name to cover illegal breedings of Pitbulls, I still don't believe that's what true ISBTs are, I just think the names been hijacked to cover certain peoples tracks.
Bit of a shame really, as I think the ISBT is absolutely stunning. :smt049
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12-06-2007, 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd
Irish Bull Terrier - never really heard the term used.
ISBT - I think of the Staffie of old, leggier and more athletic. But I don't think APBT. It never even occured to me (until the recent media coverage) that the ISBT could be a cover for APBT and although I think unscrupulous breeders will use the name to cover illegal breedings of Pitbulls, I still don't believe that's what true ISBTs are, I just think the names been hijacked to cover certain peoples tracks.
Bit of a shame really, as I think the ISBT is absolutely stunning. :smt049
Irish bull terrier has been used by the breed club S.I.B.T.C (Staffordshire and Irish Bull Terrier Club) since 1990.
thanks again,
Dave
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