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03-08-2011, 08:17 AM
Originally Posted by x-clo-x 
we have never had any in at the kennels that havent settled down, its just a case of giving the dog something to do so they arent bored. they are clever dogs and were most probably laughing at you
they certainly know who their owners are and who they have to listen to. 
we have had plenty in work, and yes they are high energy, but i dont think they are different to looking after any other dogs that come through the doors.
Clo, its not about people telling you a Weimaraner in not suitable for you, only you and time will tell that, I think the reason people may be a little sceptical about your choice is more to do with the fact, how many times you have changed your mind on what your next breed is going to be, and this is your latest fad.
If this is really the breed for you and everythign falls into place when the time is right then I hope you get what you are after.
Personally I dont think they are any more difficult than many other breeds, some are as mad as a box of frogs.. and some are not , I know many that fit into both categories, and most are lovely dogs.
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03-08-2011, 08:31 AM
Originally Posted by chaz
Sorry Clo I missed the bit about you going to look at a breeder, good luck, your CC's probally wont know whats hit them at first
wiems at the kennels I was at were always the worst, they were the bosses passion, he had always had one (I felt so sorry when he had to rehome his because the JRT kept starting fights and coming off worse, to keep both dogs safe, and his kids, as one of them liked to try and show off with dogs, and would be the one to jump in to stop it, and that wouldn't of gone well, and he couldn't find a suitable home for such a problem terrier, so had to rehome the apple of his eye who was planned to be bred) she was the best one I've seen, but she had a farm to run around in, and played with the kids, and was with the man a lot), but I do think that they are a breed that some owners (and kennel assistants) can find fun I would take on any mad EBT, or the wire haired fox terrier who attacked wellies and find them easier, them and springer spaniels (particulary one) were always the dogs that people knew would need more time and energy whenever they come in, Im sure the owners had a laugh at what we would have to deal with too, as most of them, although they loved their dogs did find them a bit difficult, but then what worth having is not worth a bit of extra time and energy?
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03-08-2011, 01:00 PM
I've done some digging and in the Siberian Husky this is inherited as a recessive, meaning that both parents must be carriers for it to occur in any offspring.
This means that the stud dog Shadowold Face of Fire must be a HC carrier as he has sired at least one affected dog. The bitch/es that produced the litter that contained the affected dog/s will also be a carrier/s.
I may be wrong but I don't think there is a DNA test for HC, therefore any dog/s that have produced affected offspring should, ethically and morally, be removed from the pool of breeding stock unless they are in the hands of knowledgeable persons and the dog is also vitally important to the breed.
Being a carrier of the gene means that male or female, the dog will pass on the carrier state to 50% of its offspring, and without a test you cannot know which - and if it is unfortunate enough to be bred to another carrier, affected puppies will develop hereditary cataracts.
I have read that HC starts to develop in puppies between 6-18 months old.
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05-08-2011, 07:55 PM
its gone from non-health tested huskies being bred by a farrier that earns A LOT to Clo's next choice of pup.... Looks like it would be a bit long to read back though
Originally Posted by chaz
Must admit SmokeyBear I and I know of at least one other person, more then likely two
have been put of wiemies as after working in kennels and never meeting a calm, easy one, I know it was kennel enviroment but the were all crazy and then some, and theres one in rescue whose the same apparently. I must of been unlucky to meet them, the enviroment wrong, and maybe them not being trained properly, or them just taking the mick out of us, but they just seemed like they were all energy and brains, and probally not suited to some homes because of this, and probally hard to train for some people if the dogs cleverer then them lol, its like my Diesel, I say he's stubborn but in reality its more likely that he's too clever and knows only to do something if theres something in it for him. Must admit though, they were all superfriendly dogs, but after sharing my home with calm hounds for years I can't imagine such a change.
) but I tend to think of that as a bit short sighted. Perhaps because my chosen breed falls prey to the 'they are all looneys' 'they are stupid' 'they are hyper' etc etcActually I think that most intelligent dogs make a very quick decision on where, who with and when they can act a certain way! I dont believe that makes them 'mental'
I know of two Weims with that 'looney' reputation. One may not have been socialised well as an entire male and the other just went mental when her owners left her.
I see that as training. Same with dobes. They do not call them 'velcro dogs' for nothing BUT I know I can leave my dog and he will sleep. Not all dobes (or weims) will need to have seperation anxiety.
Some breeds (and individual dogs) will react differently to a kennel environment. Why would a 'high energy' dog that is used to a home environment be calm and settled in kennels with nothing to do. Dobes and Weims are sensitive too.
They can settle in kennels but I can also see why some dont.
I do agree with you that they are sometimes not suited to their owners (or the owners not suited to them) and that's why they come across as 'loony tunes' and not actually because they are daft!
I think they can be hard work but I dont think they have to be (if that makes sense to anyone but me
)RE: your hounds/change
this is the great thing about having so many breeds, the high energy all-go breeds may not be your thing but you have found a group that does suit you and so you can still enjoy dogs. Just like you said, some dogs are suited to some owners etc
A hound that liked to sleep 23/7 would bore me!! (no offence meant there) where as I have a dobe that is happy to sleep when I'm gone and be a nutter when I arrive/take him out
and thats what I enjoy; being able to go out and PLAY for hours and walk for hours and go running and cycling and hillwalking and to the beach and anything else that is active and watch him having fun. Teach him games, phrases, tricks....he never tires and I like it, he is also not a dog that will do anything for anyone. So would likely be classed the same as the Weims you encountered in kennels!What I do find sad is that a woman has approached me in the street to tell me how my dog is just how they should be and that you dont see dobes like that anymore. My dog is far from perfect. I think its just the reputation the breed has been given and certain types who owned them at some point because I am by no means any type of expert!
Anyway, I have heard all about nutter weims and dobes from so many people that when I seen the post felt I had to comment. Please don't think that its you in particular I'm getting at its just I felt I had to comment thats all!
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05-08-2011, 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Dobermann
you read 48 pages? You get an award for dedication
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05-08-2011, 09:36 PM
You should be commended for reading the whole thread in one go though. Pure dedication!
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