yes but these dreeds are being openly advertised as to what they are
and how you explain ears cropped

Have no idea but I would imagine theres not much they could do there providing you had reported the found pup to your local council. However your average family buying a pup aren't going to want to take these risks.

Litters of pups with cropped ears are few and far between, the RSPCA do prosecute however the current law only allows you to prosecute the vet or person who did it not the owner or breeder or imports.
The new act also has amendments under Mutilation which will make it easier for the RS to prosecute vets, owners, breeders, of cropped dogs.

Either way if docking becomes as rare as cropping I'll be happy

Perhaps because anyone knowing he and others doing it are not reporting them as they should be...

There are various ways, from reporting them and getting quick response from RSPCA [ who I understand will be dealing with prosecutions under the cruelty aspect as opposed to the police doing it ], or following them home or getting their car reg, or answering ads in papers and going to view under the pretence of buying, or word of mouth from people passing details on to those they know will report it formally, all sorts of ways are do-able.
Its not just a case of walking up to someone and saying ` I think your dog has been illegially docked, whats your name and address so I can report you `

Most vets and nurses are ethically opposed to docking so why would they not report it ?
Under the Guide To Professional Conduct, vets should report anything appearing to be abuse and once the law comes in that includes docking, [ except genuinely certificated working dogs until that loophole is filled in once and for all to make it illegal to dock *any* puppy ].
The RCVS provides guidence to vets on reporting things and not just suspected animal abuse but also child abuse and domestic violence if a vet feels there is an issue in any of those areas.

Before you try arguing those points with me, its infomation freely available from the RCVS so you should take it up with them directly if you have questions about it, I`m just making you aware that its included in their GTPC.

Well, they must all be getting done where you live because I`ll bet very few people have seen them. If thats the case and you know where its going on, what are *you* doing about it to stop the dogs suffering ?
ANything ?
Nothing ?
Or is it just talk and you are exaggerating occurrences without actually knowing the real extent [ or lack of it ] ?

Incidentally, this thread is about the docking ban, not cropping or banned breeds.

Hello!
I think Staffer is right to a point...there is cropping going on (I saw a cropped...well breed unknown the other day, it looked like a pit bull), but as Anne said, it is rare.
I think the key is education. People on the street need to know. Most people either don't know about the DDA or have forgotten about it, I imagine it will all be tightened up soon though. The same needs to be done about docking, people have to be told it is illegal. Dog laws must be clear and obvious to the public.
Yes, people slip through. Yes some animals have their ears cropped, yes in some areas some banned dogs are still around and popular BUT it is still illegal and most people wouldn't do any of that if they knew. The DDA is becoming spoken about more again and I really am convinced it won't be long until it is enforced more visibly and firmly.

In such a case i KNOW there will be many choosing to 'break the law' (what an ASS of a law it is) and if anything becomes of it with the police then i shall eat my hat! And if the RSPCA did something i think we would all die, considering they didn't even come out to a dog that had been ran over localy, recently-(it was eventualy taken to the local vets surgery and PTS).
People will still have docked dogs, there will still be breeders who dock-just be more difficult to source out.
And i'm with the others-some fool asked for my personal details cause i had a docked dog i sure know what my response would be! The idea of it i tell you-terms 'get' and 'life' springs to mind if one has enough time to tail (excuse the pun) dog owners who have docked dogs!
Just because one chooses we prefer a dog to be docked, for its saety, for the fact that's in my eyes (and many others)-a part of the breed, and for the fact one generaly prefers them with a docked tail-doesn't make one not a dog lover!

Extreme and offensive.
I totally approve of the law but that certainly does not make me comparable to the Nazis.
Totally offended by that last comment. Totally.