So how does he (for example) stop a dog pulling on the lead? And how does he teach positions (sit / down etc.) I`ve heard a lot about extreme cases, but nothing about basic training, which is really what most dog owners want to know.

Probaley! im still blaming you though!!!!!For Starting it!

We are all going around in circles i agree!

I'm worn out just reading it.......

Kel used to stop and bite me on the backside in the ring to make me run faster, didn't work but it wasn't gentle!:smt005

he's not a trainer, he is a self styled behaviourist:smt002 He does have a website, google the dog whisperer. Had to laugh last night cos there was a clip at the start of his show with him running and he was still smiling with those gleaming white teeth, very bizzare

He puts one of his "creations" on them the illusion collar, which causes the dog so much pain it cant breathe & so dosent pull.( & whilst im all for exercise running a unfit dog without getting it fit, & then when its tired,mentally & physically, he then trys his techiques!!!!!)

Sometimes the dog fights back,it has abit of character, its then labeled red zone/dangerous /dominant (when its really just scared), & he bullies it into submission, oh & look another mislabelled dog hes rescued/saved (when really its shut down spirit broken).

Hes not a trainer so he dosent bother teaching them basic stuff like a sit or a down. Why i wonder? because a dog need confidence & trust to do even basic things like that.

I did see him teach a dog to swim once though! how clever!!!!! He threw it in the pool & wouldnt let it out, he is a genuis!!!!!

first toatlly agree with Inca

and colliemad what your describing are dogs that run you and i know you don't like to hear that, but your dogs are telling you what to do

Claire and daisy caesar is not a trainer he helps dogs that are having severe problems, and convential things are no longer working and yes im all for doing whatever it takes to prevent anyone from getting attacked and any dogs being put down because of it, or it may be having to deal with a dog who pulls horribly on a leash and when that dog wieghs close to 100lbs you need to be the one in control, and also the leash method he teaches is the same one they use in dog shows up behind the ears all you dog handlers should know that ......just watch a show dogs are his life

And in response to the white teeth, hello its Hollywood

and yes to the one who pitys my dog, i know she has it so horrible on Her OWN fluffy bed with those darn rawhide bones or yes and i am a bad handler since i pulled back on her leash to train her OMG! the the insanity how did you teach your dog to walk on a leash hmmm

Im out thanks for letting get a good debate on today, I was pretty bored today but we should all consider this topic closed its only been what 47 pgs peaceout

almost forgot I have owned Collies and Boarder collies so i know all about them

You know I don't like to hear that?:smt005 Actually I don't care, they do what I ask them to when I ask them, the rest of the time they are just dogs, normal border collies that at the moment are watching television while waiting for me to feed them

then you would know that the name is Border Collie not boarder:smt002