I wouldn't imagine there were many ethical breeders of Doodlemans...The Dobermann suffers enough due to health problems I can't help thinking that particular cross has nothing positive to offer -- It's a really silly one, yet folks still do it for monetary gain........

FWI, I can sadly see it from all sides, but you have to admit things are getting rather silly.

Actually it's miniature poodles Don't worry they are always getting called toys and standards because people don't get the sizes

Even doing things the 'right' way I don't agree with.. Unless it's to improve a breed like people have said about Dally's. I know the likes of the Irish Water Spaniel most likely has poodle in it but it was bred for a working purpose not just for the sake of it. And afterall some doodle breeders are basically breeding poodles

It really anoys me even more since I've found out my dogs pedigree has been stolen and used to breed these dogs!! Very unlikely it is actually the poodles side of the pedigree. I suppose alot of these dogs bred by min poodles will possibly have a pedigree the same as Blu's because I suppose for the money makers 'UK's top winning miniature poodle' in the pedigree sounds good

tbh i really dont pay much attention to all of them. It seems some are one offs and very rare and others are very common and more likely to be subject to being abused for example the most commonly referred to "goldendoodle" labradoodle" and "cockapoo". It is unfortunate they seem to be trying any ped crossed with a poodle to see if it'll bite consumers

Just more reason to educate people against it. If they arent going about things the right way people need to learn not to be drawn in by the cute puppy picture and look at the bigger picture and walk away.

sorry i meant your "breed standard" poodle lol.

Will say one thing, I hate people crossing them to dogs they know are larger or smaller and dont know how it will affect the make up of the dogs. Not a gamble i would be willing to take. I think it was the "miniture labradoodle" I had heard of

Ah ok. That's what they get for naming it the standard poodle then

I imagine nearly all of the poodles crossed aren't breed standard anyway. I do know of one that was and the owner was soon dealt with by the breed clubs

So long as the min poodle is the stud then it should be 'ok' but not the other way around. I do notice the bitch is rarely a poodle right enough!

Really? I havent heard of that before but I know they are by no means shall i say fond of the idea lol

Kicked off them all!

Poodle clubs may not agree with crossing (don't blame them) but atleast they are well aware of health problems and correcting them. More than what can be said in some breeds where the owners know the problems but won't test

Have found that with all of the dogs also. Just is a risk I wouldnt be willing to take. If your going to make a cross at least go with breeds which aren't going to be too clashing but i suppose this is where the debate lies isnt it.