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22-01-2011, 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by Velvetboxers 
Have a look at this article on the web under Dominance Aggression - you may it interesting
http://mendocinohumane.org/html/aggressive.html
Dominance aggression (which would translate to tying to 'put the cat in its place'?
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Fear aggression (which would be the dog being afraid of the cat hurting it - or survival instinct)
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Protective/territorial/possesvie aggression (hich would be the dog worried about the cat taking resouces - or survival instinct)
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Predetory aggression (the dog who sees the cat as a meal - or suvival instinct)
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redirected aggression (can;t reach the object so take it out on the cat)
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Pain (dog is hurting so lashes out in fear o being hurt more - suvival instinct)
or idiopathic....ie - no-one knows.
from what I see, most of this would come down to suvival instinct.
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22-01-2011, 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by Velvetboxers
Quote by Gnasher -
Cats are cats, they do pretty much as they like. I believe you can train a cat to a certain extent, but they are completely untrustworthy and will do whatever it is you have trained them not to do behind your back. But as least whilst you are looking, you can control them to a certain extent. - end quote
I dont think thats altogether fair. Some cats like some dogs are good at turning "deaf ears".
We have 2. Theyve never given reason for us to think they are untrustworthy, quite the opposite. They can both "sit" when asked
On u-tube there are vids of cats doing agility. To do so an animal needs the basics of obedience. I guess you get what you put into an animal. Maybe cat agility is something i should look into with my painful knee.
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22-01-2011, 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Velvetboxers
I didnt say that the dog was dominant the only opinion i have is that a pet dog does not kill a pet cat to survive
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22-01-2011, 10:05 PM
Originally Posted by Tassle
So - going by this article...
Dominance aggression (which would translate to tying to 'put the cat in its place'?
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Fear aggression (which would be the dog being afraid of the cat hurting it - or survival instinct)
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Protective/territorial/possesvie aggression (hich would be the dog worried about the cat taking resouces - or survival instinct)
or -
Predetory aggression (the dog who sees the cat as a meal - or suvival instinct)
or -
redirected aggression (can;t reach the object so take it out on the cat)
or -
Pain (dog is hurting so lashes out in fear o being hurt more - suvival instinct)
or idiopathic....ie - no-one knows.
from what I see, most of this would come down to suvival instinct.
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22-01-2011, 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
It does! Surely you would agree that if a dog was blinded by a cat, in the wild he would have a job to survive. Cats can do incredible damage with their claws, and although I don't know of any, there must be many dogs who have lost an eye, or two, or been sight impaired by a cat.
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22-01-2011, 10:17 PM
Originally Posted by Velvetboxers
I repeat a "pet" dog (living as a pet) does not need to kill a " pet" cat (living as a pet) to survive. I never mentioned a dog living in the wild
It may not 'need' to in our eyes.....but from the dogs POV.
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22-01-2011, 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by Tassle
So - going by this article...
Dominance aggression (which would translate to tying to 'put the cat in its place'?
or -
Fear aggression (which would be the dog being afraid of the cat hurting it - or survival instinct)
or -
Protective/territorial/possesvie aggression (hich would be the dog worried about the cat taking resouces - or survival instinct)
or -
Predetory aggression (the dog who sees the cat as a meal -
or suvival instinct)
or -
redirected aggression (can;t reach the
object so take it out on the cat)
or -
Pain (dog is hurting so lashes out in fear o being hurt more - suvival instinct)
or idiopathic....ie - no-one knows.
from what I see, most of this would come down to suvival instinct.
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Dominance aggression may be directed at humans, dogs and even cats. - end Quote
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22-01-2011, 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by Velvetboxers
Under the dominance theory -
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Dominance aggression may be directed at humans, dogs and even cats. - end Quote
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