Isn't that always the way, when I got my first English Setter I was adamant I wanted a blue belton - came home with an orange

When I wanted a poodle, I didn't want a brown or a miniature, ooopps first poodle was a brown and cream mini lol!
Becky

Having never bred a litter myself, I'm not sure I could tell you but breeders do say on their websites etc how many liver and how many black there are so I think you must be able to tell.

The ears are always more obviously liver if the dog is liver - like my Takara, people only seem to pick up on the fact she's liver when they see her nose and the spots on her ears because she's so dark.

If you look at that puppy in the picture I gave, it looks to me like it's liver because it's ear spots look brown but I couldn't say for certain!

Leonberger puppies are born black
Over a couple of days they look like this



then this




before changing to a lighter colour (if they do indeed lighten up)

Aww, how cute, and what a transformation

These are English Setter pups 2 days old:



and here they are at 6 weeks old:


Bradley is the one on the bottom left

Oh wow, never seen english setter pups that young. thankyou they are lovely

oh no sheree - don't do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

those little pups are real sweet - all of them!!

look at their little tails all straight up in the air as they feed!!! so sweet!!!