I would say sibes are medium, going on looks, but as you say they are not the most bulky dog going,

so if we take weight into it,

whats our views on small? medium? large? not taking what dog meal bags say into account,

just our own personal views.

mine are up to 20kg small

20-35kg med

35 - 55 large

55 and over giant,

but when you look at the weights, compared to my size views they are very contradictory, eg,

i'm with Hevvur here.

I think it depends on what dogs you met as a kid too - I met rotties when I was tiny so I still think they are GIANT dogs

For me if its bigger than Ben then its large, smaler than Mia its small easy really - and of course they are just right

Neah - really agree with what most of you have said - adding - if it weighs more than me then its scary!!

Shona - know what you mean about heads - my friends have a staffy cross and they are always amazed how pointy at the back of the head my two are - I am just blown away by how HEAVY his head is when he puts it in your lap

staffies heads in relation to their bodys remind me of 'weebles wobble but they dont fall down' lol. meant in the nicest way (giving my age away eh?)

what sort of weight is a border collie?

my border collie has always been 21kg and hes a fairly large chap.

Id Agree with that!!!!!

My Big Boy Flynn is 25/26 Kg , but my little mav is 19kg. My Older bitch i like to keep at 7 18kg

Wow, my two (who are just under 17 inches - so the smallest you get collies) are 10Kg!

We call Tilly 'fat head'

In an affectionate way though