thought you were a vet ?

Errrrrrrrr no I was a veterinary nurse for several years. Bit of a difference.
As for her being checked.....she has been in the past....this time I am only going again, to get refered to specialist....as previously my vet couldn't see anything. But thanks for your advice.

www.luxaycaninie.com try that

you could try www.k9capers or www.dfordog.com

k9 capers

Mad had one a while back and she chewed the bumps as she was eating. She will just push balls out with her nose as she eats, makes not a jot of diff to her. I soak her food in water first to minimise the risk and she has 2 meals a day rather than one large meal as some dogs have and I don't take them out an hour before of after eating. All mine have deep chests. I'm a bit paranoid about bloat because of how she wolfs her food down. Can't decide on the raised bowls as there is just as much evidence against them reducing the risk of bloat than for!

I didnt know they have had negitive reviews. i would be para too have you seen the brake fast bowls?

The ones with the bumps in? Yes that is what Maddy had and she chewed the bumps while she was eating. Then again she's not the brightest, she probably thought it was part of her dinner.

Yep the raised bowls have negative reviews too, it was in a weimy article I read but obviously it applies to all breeds. I'll see if I can find it for you to have a look at.

Can't find the exact study I read but here is a quote from an article on it:
"One traditional preventative has been to raise the height of food and water bowls, but this was found to actually increase risk by 110 percent. This correlation of risk was verifiable; the dogs of the breeders in this study did not have close relatives that had experienced bloat."

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proce...5091&O=Generic

I've seen that report and to be honest I'm not sure it shows that raised bowls increase the risk of bloat. I think it shows that breeds that generally use feeding stands get bloat more than breeds that don't normally use feeding stands - but I doubt that it's the raised stands fault...just that most owners/breeders of breeds prone to bloat use raised stands - if that makes sense. It's impossible to prove that the stands have a negative effect - I suspect if all breeders stopped using stands the incidence of bloat would increase dramatically.

To my mind it's like saying long coats in borzois increase the risk of bloat - because most borzois that get bloat have long coats