These Last Chance Dogs he helps arent Really Last Chance though. He Mis- Dianosges them then "Saves" Them......Convienent & also winds them up to make them appear worse than they are

Thanks for that Becky. Nice to know I am an Abuser of Dogs.

Somebody really ought to tell Tai.

True, that is spot on.
One big problem being that people who are not trained to see or understand dog body language, but who listen to CMs calm voice whilst he half strangles a dog, do find it hard to "get it" - in some ways it's not their fault as boy are his programmes and books manipulative.

I remember when I was seduced by Barbara Woodhouse methods as i thought that was what dog training was -it was only when I felt so uncomfortable and started to question them, that I found other ways.

But, that was many years ago.Now, we do have more info available .....

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Here`s one follow up- Cotton
Cesar Millan could get Cotton to be calm submissive, but the minute he was out the door, Cotton reverted. Cotton went for a follow up at Millan’s place, who recommended the Kreiger’s have Cotton live with a muzzle. Unfortunately the family had tried that, and the dog seemed able to wriggle out of them given time.
And what did they do? Have his teeth filed down.

If the cap fits Gnasher. I, and others, are stunned that you see nothing wrong with his methods.

Absolutely disgusting and proof that his methods do not work. Poor animal.
Becky

OMG that is sick
Obviously some way or another his fans will be able to make that a huge success or something
File the teeth down!! So if its a bit bouncy and his pinning down dosent work then tying its feet together will fix it!

I have three very happy dogs, who beleive me were terrified creatures when i first had them. I have used CM methods with them and my foster dogs, they are effective and im happy to say my fosterdogs/pups have all found long term families and are thriving, This comment is nonsense!
I respect that CM is not for everyone, but please dont condem those who have felt its good and works for them.

Which methods of CMs did you use?

I'm asking because those who do support him often say they use his methods, but when asked, only use the basic "exercise...." etc but not pinning and alpha rollling and half choking.

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I have used most of his techniques and have used The alpha Roll with success and pinning. Not sure what you mean by half choking though?

For what behaviours did you feel the need to alpha roll?? and pin? and what differences did you see after?