I know what you said and I think you're are out of your mind.

I stand by my comment I would have clubbed the dog to death, because quite simply I don't have a gun.

If I did I would have shot it there and then, but if it was attacking and savaging me or someone then I would have killed it with whatever came to hand, I'd terminate it with a spoon, might take a while but hey, whatever, and as for assess the dog ... is your world really that insular?
Hang on this dog is gnawing my child face off, does it have behavioural issues? Obviously the owners fault, whoah, its just clamped its jaws on my throat, think I'd better hot foot it down to the vets and have it assesed and possibly have it PTS, Get real people, you would have killed it there and then if you could.

There is a problem with Bull breeds and one that needs to be addressed, believe me when I say this because it no amount of dodging the issue will alter the stats, and crossed bull breeds even worse We have a male collie/staff in the village, not big and lovely with people but lethal to my Full male Dobe because it has the attack gene firmly hard wired to its brain. Cue more whimpering and whinging.

Feel free to carry on with your middle of the road namby pamby liberal approach that sits on the fence and doesn't acheive anything.

Stand up and be counted, do something about it, don't just try and plug the gaps because the Bull breed ship is sinking fast, its only a matter of time, and unfortunately when the ship eventually does go down the resulting backwash will take a few other breeds with it, probably my Dobes as well even though statistically your more likely to get mauled by a Labrador.

Wheres the Ostrich head in the sand Gif/smily when you need it?

A young lad has died, very sad and tragic, I cannot even start to contemplate how it would be to die like this, horrific doesn't seem enough. How anyone can try and defend this dogs action (saying its humanising whats that about?)

The Dogs a dog, it killed, its what these and many dogs can do, granted it may have been in the wrong hands, but do you buy a Bengal Tiger and then sob because it ate your Granny?

Shot the dog, i would have had great pleasure in going at it with a large knife

If a person is killed by physical trauma then the scene will be horrific beyond the experience of most people. The true tragedy of this case was that a young girl never got to grow up, never got to live her life and realise the potential she possesed and left a family blighted by grief. That is the loss. That is the terrible consequence. That is what is important. How gory the scene was in the aftermath is of no consequence except to raise emotions. I expect that was the purpose in whoever showed you such images. i don't imagine it felt good and I don't believe it has helped your judgement.

Do you believe that Ellie would have been perfectly safe if only Kiel Simpson had owned a Rottweiler or a GSD or a Malinois or a Mastiff or Ridgeback, etc, etc? You would be foolish if you did because what lay behind that attack (and behind every other fatal dog attack) is bad ownership. Textbook bad ownership.

Ellie's killer, Reuben, died as this dog yesterday has died and as all dogs who seriously attack must - because they cannot continue to live in a human world if they kill humans - but if you blind yourself to the part played by the owners then you doom us to repeat the same pattern. You may horrify readers with gruesome snippets and gory details but in focusing your blame on the animal you are actually making another Ellie or another John-Paul more likely not less.

I am not an apologist for dangerous dogs. Dangerous dogs have no place in our society. Death is the only option. Nobody on this thread, as far as I've seen, has said otherwise although some have expressed their sorrow at the events that produced this calamity - both the enviroment or breeding that produced a potentially dangerous dog and the lack of management that permitted that potential to be realised - and some, without drawing equivalence, have lamented that two lives were lost.

Some perhaps echo your view. Perhaps they feel that the dog was evil, "demented" one poster said, and deserving of death. Perhaps they think the dog's death was a good thing but that is non-sensical for it would have been better of course if the dog's death had never been necessary. Better that this attack never happened. Better that the 'evil' dog had never existed. But, if that's how you feel, you should consider - this 'evil' dog, by breeding or enviroment, is a product of humans. The behaviour of this dog at that time of this attack would have been hazardous in any breed. If you want to stop it, if you want to stop such disasters in the future, you must either try to remove all dogs (you can't even say bigger dogs unless you think babies deserve less protection than older children) or try to remove this behaviour in all dogs. And you'll never achieve the later by ignoring the contribution of the dog's owners and enviroment.

Some of the stuff I'm reading here is absolutely ridiculous.

The sooner people learn that the dogs are a creation of the scum that own then and that they are to blame for the behaviour of the dog, the better.

If you're not in that mindset then, IMO, you're not fit to own any type of dog.

Shame on you who would stab or club a dog to death after it had attacked. What good would that do? Can't be right in the head if you feel that way.

I'm no expert, but I'm sure dogs don't think the way humans do, they don't have that logical understanding humans are meant to have.

Humans do a lot worse to fellow humans and animals every day. Most of them knowingly as they are just plain evil.

And if you were to even consider attacking a dog after it attacked, then you as well are plain evil. Shame on you.

Is it any wonder so many people, including myself, prefer dogs to humans.

It is tragic and so desperately sad that a 4 year old was killed by a dog, and this happened because of the scum who owned it. Human failure.

Your husband killing the dog would do good only in as much as making him feel better or avenged.
The right course of action would be to make sure the dog never killed another child by trying to rehabilitate it, and as a last resort HUMANLY destroying it!

The right course of action would be to make sure the dog never killed another child by trying to rehabilitate it, and as a last resort HUMANLY destroying it!

Since you've practically quoted me, I would appreciate it if my position were not misrepresented (again).

What I said was don't kill the dog before its temperament and reactivity had been assessed.

Substantially different.

did you see these pics or not?