don;t care for either much just a shame cavaliers got slated twice in a week only this time it looked like he forgot what syringomyelia was ..

I would recommend:-
'How Dogs Think: Understanding the Canine Mind' by proffessor Stanley Conran'

I liked it because he is mostly quoting from a lot of research that has been done in America, UK, & Australia and only occassionaly puts forward his own theories and he doesn't generaise either. It is a bit 'heavy going' in places but IMO worth reading.

A better book than Fogles one I would think.

He was on Martin Clunes' programme last night, in case anyone's still wondering!

He's just seems to be one of those people that thinks cos he's got a gob and a qualification, we all want to hear his opinion!

He also writes in Dogs Today and my God, he doesn't half come out with some drivel!

So you dont want any of his books for xmas?

Only if I had an open fire!

Your idea of heven then? an open fire and a good book

His articles in Dogs Today are a pile of poo and his son is an irritating git.

Picked up one of his guides to dog breeds books in a pet shop which claimed that Swedish Elkhounds are popular pets in the UK. Erm...are there ANY SE breeders in the UK? I doubt it. The guy doesn't seem to know an awful lot about what he writes about.

well you've got one?

Loki's mum`s Elkie came from Ireland.

I'm pretty positive that Loki's Mum has Norwegian Elkhounds, which aren't that common either!

J