I know some are handed into rescue,but as Clair has said,if you keep buying these pups they are going to keep breeding.

All puppies to me are adorable hienze 57 or not, if I liked it I'd have it ped or not, I had a faithfull old friend too King a wee hienze 57 lived till 18, a very loving wee man.

Ok so the question isn't as simple as I thought Obviously you are refering to people who regularly churn out "pedigree" puppies and not people who have accidental litters or one litter for a particular reason.

For example roughly 20 yrs ago my nan got a little corgi bitch from the local animal shelter, this was in the days before nuetering rehomed dogs was done regardless.. anyway a few weeks later she produced 6 little puppies.. Made the front page of the local paper (awful picture of me!) She made sure the puppies went to good homes and kept in touch with some of the new owners. this is the sort of thing i was thinking was meant by the question "What are your views on this, pedigree or non pedigree"

Locally there are always pedigree labs advertised in the local paper these are the people you mean i suppose.
I wouldnt buy from someone who was obviously breeding for money and selling puppies on a regular basis.

Hayley (has learn't to multi-quote)

Yep,thats exactly what I was on about

There is absolutely no reason, other than selfishness, to have "just one litter", if your dog is not prime standard of its breed, with impecable (sp?) temperament and health.
I know puppies are sweet and fun and nice, and what harm can just one litter do? But if you look at the bigger picture with thousands of dogs in pounds, it is all dog lovers responsibility to make sure there are less homeless dogs out there. It is not just the accidental matings that end up in rescues either, many of them are pure bred dogs with pedigrees, do a search for labrador rescues for instance, there are SO many dogs looking homes, even puppies!! Now these dogs, to me, are the luckier ones of the misfortunate.. at least they will have a life long back up system, should things go wrong, and they will (if the rescue is any use) be spayed/neutered, hence preventing more over breeding.
By buying dogs from people who breed unscrupulously, you are supporting their business. You may feel you "saved" a dog, but the truth is, you pave the way for the suffering of many more.

Sorry paper hanging is a term for when breeds fake Kennels club papers and lie about the pedigree

Im sorry about you horrible exp, but it flips too the other side to hun, Missie was my only Kennel club reg stafford, from show lines, both parents where health tested, and Due to MAJOR health problems, I mean really ill, we had to have her PTS. As Stafford people are aware, There is too types of Standards for Staffords, the original and the new standard. What ever camp you are in I think breeding to the standards are Important, but breeding a 16/38 bitch and father does not mean they will be the same height and size, with the newer standards.

Basically Ill always breed if I ever do the orignal standards, because I believe this is the best way forward for the Stafford, as the people who bred to the new standards believe this.

I dont want to see a 13inch stafford, Just like I dont want to see a 20 inch Stafford, Bitches 15-18, Boys 16-19 MAX and 18 and 19 being a bit too tall for me.

Anyway I have had bad dealing with my little Missie, I would never have changed the fact we got her, but she was from show lines and she was very ill, my 3 unreg Staffords are SO healthy, and sadly my first KC reg was very unhealthy.

if i was to get a pedigree dog (by that i mean a dog that is pure bred not crossed...) i would go to a breed rescue.

To me it matters not if they are registered although i fully understand the whole gotta keep things above board, its the best situation all round but i could never buy a pup from a breeder, i just couldnt sleep at night knowing i had just gone and gotten a cute puppy that would have found a home had i not been there anyway when there are so many dogs in rescue, i just couldnt do it....

All my puppies are going endorsed not to be breed form on there registration, to stop people just buying them and breeding for money. I've explained to the new owners it means you cant register any litters from them by the KC and the pups wont fetch as much money.
hopefully this should put them off.
But I'd buy registered every time,it means at least you bitch hasnt been bred from every season as well.

Hi,
Make sure you put it in writing about the endorsements too,so they can't say they didn't know about them .
This is what we add into our puppy contracts,

The Kennel Club Registration Form states that this puppy cannot have an Export Certificate.Should you decide to permanently reside abroad and provide me with proof of this intent this restriction may be lifted at our descretion.

The Kennel Club Registration Form states that progency from this Staffordshire Bull Terrier may not be registered.This means that should you breed from this dog you cannot register it’s offspring.This restriction may be lifted at our discretion after all health checks and tests have been carried out,subject to receiving copies of the certificates,if the dog has been shown and deemed by breed specialist judges to be a good specimen of the breed and if a bitch over the age of two years.