youve proved nothing only made yourself look silly! neither DD nor anyone needs to know the full ecology of deer to feel empathy and compassion for them!....some people have been desensitized to the killing of animals and some people havent ......simple as!

Why has Dawn been made to look silly , she posted some photographs of deer doing what they do...

Its not her fault no one seemed to realise they were alive and what that has to do with empathy and compassion , I dont know.

Who is desensitised to the killing of animals????

Well----I wonder?

rune

Two people made comments on the photo posted---you and DD.

So where does your comment come from that no one realised the deer was alive?

Posting the photo didn't make Dawn look silly.

rune

lol because it seems for some reason she was trying to catch people out to prove some point or other i for one never even noticed the pic ....so what has knowing or not knowing that deer lie in scrapes got to do with the way people feel about trophy hunting them??...that wont change the views of people who care will it...and it certainly dosent prove any point

obviously those who kill them are desensitized or they wouldnt do it

Not read to the end of the thread yet, but what? Where on earth have I put that? All I've posted about *really* relates to management of the environment and wildlife in this country?? Clutching at straws springs to mind, off to read the rest of the thread.....

Well it seems as much as I'm not keen on Dawn's particular methods of sensationalism, it really does equate to the sensationalism that prompted this thread.

Anyone who wants to comment on the people who take their time and effort to help maintain species conservation in viable numbers in this country, really needs to spend a bit of time learning and talking to those people. If you spent a few minutes even, talking to anyone who is involved with any type of shoot, stalking etc, their love of the environment and the quarry species shines through, they admire what they hunt, and don't ever want to annihilate a species.

Can you say the same of the person who chucks a chicken in their trolley down at the local supermarket? How many day old chicks die simply because they are born male, and yet the way wildlife is managed and has been managed over time, and proven to be effective, is held to judge, jury and executioner, because fluffy animals have to die to help keep viable populations? And yet no-one thinks of that when they buy their eggs, or two for a fiver chickens, that fluffy chicks were gassed at a day old simply for their gender??

One of those is very right, the other is very wrong. Rune posted a very valid point, their are animal lovers and there are animal keepers, but missed an important point, those who keep animals well, also love them.

Indeed I have, and pleased with that I am. Sorry its late, only just back.

It PROVED that those who are complaining the most know nothing of what they are talking about! Thanking you for helping do that, very much appreciated.

well i bet by the time DD is old as you or i she'll know far more than we could ever dream of knowing about wildlife infact she'll know more already about somethings, but she would never and has never claimed to know everything .

oh and knew deer lie in scrapes altho it would make no difference if i didnt because i'd still i know that the people who do this are immoral and perverse..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMWZ2cSgcA