[QUOTE=Ramble;1835522] Sorry, got me quotes mixed up

Not here in the UK where the dog has to be of the "Type"

What judges are you writing of Show judges ? APBT are not a KC recognized breed here in the UK so have no say in the matter.

If it is the Law Court Judges, then ban the owners from ever owning any animal again & fine them high & make them work with the victims of such attacks

im sure with many/most breeds if you look hard enough you will find very bad press about them,

rotties dont take much searching sadly,

but why should I not have my well bred, well reared, well behaved dogs because some fool picked up a very poorly bred dog and used it as a guard dog? never reared it properly?

It was the Court Judges, I was referring to in my post. I agree with your solution but these people change names, kennel names, move and can think about anything and everything to breed again, I've seen it here. It would be a wonderful start though but hard to police and always a challenge to someone that is hell bent in doing what they want. I admire the UK with how they breed and treat their animals, it is only this that I have a hard time with at the moment.

here here, so basically we should just allow our breeds to fall into the hands of the numpties, accept it and move on to another ??

There isnt an easy answer but until the authorities start looking at the people behind the dog whether that be breeding it ( badly) or owning it then nothing will change. banning the breed is not and will never be the answer. again someone correct me if I am wrong but The DDa came about not through attacks by Pit Bulls but by Rotties/ GSD at the time. So where does the sense in this law actually come from??

Liverbird - I have to ask; did your friend, son and grandson know they were buying pitbulls and pitbull crosses? If so, why? Why buy a dog from a banned breed? It's illegal and if they are reported and convicted it's the dog that's going to pay...with it's life.

J.

Originally Posted by buzzie View Post
Maybe this just makes too much sense but how about people taking on a breed for a pet that hasn't been involved in killing

That may well be a great idea in the majority of cases if taken at face value as I am sure no reponsible owner wants a potential "killing machine" in their house or care however every dog is capable of this and thats the point every dog so it is up to us the humans to ensure they are trained and socilaised and protected from being placed in a situation where there inate behaviour kicks in, much the same as our fight or flight mechanism yes it is inate but it can also be managed.
The key word above is responsible if we take away the "pit bulltype" then next it may be the Doberman type or the Rottie type and crosses are classed as dangerous because they conform to a specific colouring, heioght or muscle density.
Those owners who are intent on a breed to make them look "hard" will always pick one that is bred to be the meanest...so if that means one originally bred for killing then they will have them regardless of laws thats what criminals do.
And I also guess you could argue that several breeds are bred for killing...from Rodesian Ridgebacks to Parson russels so do we just ban dog ownership. Very few breeds are actually bred to kill and attack humans, as far as I am aware and the Pitbull was bred as a fighting dog for dog on dog fights not for human aggression it is sadly a trait that the aggression is being channeled wrongly by poor owners and they can do that to any breed that is large enough to inflict dammage

no offence meant to owners of RR or PRT I didnt want to use typically mentioned breeds

I've just e-mailed This Morning as well.

the one show now - mic martin on
hooray already mentioned the words responsible owners

2 minute slot but more sense than This Morning !!!

I cant understand why Liverbird first asks what to do about a possible Pitt around the corner, and then practically the next post they make produce pics of a x pitt belonging to the family? surely the same question asked should apply to the dog in the family too? I certainly would not be advertising this x on the forum thats for sure.

Mo