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27-01-2011, 03:09 PM
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27-01-2011, 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by rune 
Can I ask BD, Jackbox and Morganstar please.
Is everything perfect in the world of showing? If not what is not perfect?I wouldn't be defending HTM or agility and saying it was all perfect---there is IMO quite a lot than one could be critical of with good cause.
It seems with showing that that isn't the case?
rune
Originally Posted by x-clo-x
daphni pants when she gets excited...
Originally Posted by Tassle
I find that extremely sad. It has happened to me in the past when I have 'spoken out' and I am ashamed to say I have sent support via PM as well.
The fact that people feel that cannot comment on a thread without being jumped on says a bit too much to me.
Like someone already said, if I had a penny for every support PM in a thread, I would be quiet rich, but I dont need to use them to back me up, after all the private in the message is the clue to the point of them.
Originally Posted by Pidge
Why do you still feel I did this just to wind people up? It's very odd. I've made it perfectly clear that it is a topic I find very interesting and the debate aspect on a forum is fun. What's wrong with that?
The title of the thread is anyone else NOT a fan, was /is inflammatory, it says nothing about starting an interesting debate.
It's infuriating. I don't blame them, but I do wish they would not let the 'hawks' get to them like this.
Its also not very good form to disclose support from members who give it in private, simply to give you back up!!
No, I've started a thread ADMITTING my ignorance (after all, if I'm anti large shows like this, why would I know all there is to know, but I do have an opinon) and asking people for their views. If you remember Dawn I asked you for your thoughts and I believe Rune has also, but you chose not to reply. Which is fine, but don't say I didn't try to see other's view points on this interesting debate.
Your admittance of "ignorance" was after you were pulled up about some of the twaddle you where spouting.
BTW Pidge, did you miss my question about the difference between buying a pedigree from a breeder to a rescue is , when you have stated you would never buy one again!!
Another point about the "same old" the "same old" is the same people from either side, be it pro or anti!
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27-01-2011, 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by melsgems
I have been a couple of times, always when the Pastoral group is on. Both times I have taken the boys. We have really enjoyed going round the stalls, meeting the dogs and owners, watching obedience, agility, HWTM, junior kennel club, discover dogs. We have come back with treats for the dogs. Not once have I seen any dog distressed or mistreated. Everydog has been approachable by me and the kids and have all enjoyed their fusses from us.
Weeing n pooping on some sawdust is a lot better than where a lot of other dogs get to go.
We just enjoy seeing dogs, in great condition, loved, well trained etc etc. So basically I love Crufts .......runs.......
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27-01-2011, 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Jackbox
There is a yin and yang for every walk of life, no one said its perfect, as with anything in life you get good and bad.
Mine to , they must be stressed and overheated
I find it extremely sad ,that some one has use the "support by pm" excuse to back up their argument.
Like someone already said, if I had a penny for every support PM in a thread, I would be quiet rich, but I dont need to use them to back me up, after all the private in the message is the clue to the point of them.
No you didn't, you started a thread with a negative tone, knowing it would inflame some members,
Your admittance of "ignorance" was after you were pulled up about some of the twaddle you where spouting.
BTW Pidge, did you miss my question about the difference between buying a pedigree from a breeder to a rescue is , when you have stated you would never buy one again!!
Another point about the "same old" the "same old" is the same people from either side, be it pro or anti!
You obviously didn't miss my question but could you be more specific about the bad please?
You see in all the threads on showing I have never seen anyone who shows admit that in any way there is anything wrong within it.
Thanks.
rune
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27-01-2011, 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by rune
?????
What has that to do with anything?
rune
I mean they are happy to sponsor dog shows in Japan where dog cruelty is prevalent, but based upon false "facts" of the BBC "welfare" program, they used it as an indirect excuse to cut sponsorship here.
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27-01-2011, 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
Look who sponsors dogs shows in Japan!!
http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~oz-jp/bruce_wd_okayamafci.jpg
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27-01-2011, 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by rune
You obviously didn't miss my question but could you be more specific about the bad please?
You see in all the threads on showing I have never seen anyone who shows admit that in any way there is anything wrong within it.
Thanks.
rune
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27-01-2011, 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
Didnt you know? Pedigree were in it for animal welfare.
I mean they are happy to sponsor dog shows in Japan where dog cruelty is prevalent, but based upon false "facts" of the BBC "welfare" program, they used it as an indirect excuse to cut sponsorship here.
Ahhh---so docking is cruel then and a welfare issue----I didn't realise we agreed on that.
rune
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