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01-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by horses01466 
This may not be relevant....but i heard from different vets that spaying a bitch can make her incontinent when she is older.......hmm, not nice either
Approximately 3% of bitches develop spay incontinence. However, its easy to resolve and therefore is a non-problem - spay incontinence controlled by propalin prevents it being an issue at all, that won`t kill - pyometra does
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01-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Bilclarie
Pyometra is rare in females under the age of 6yrs it usually accures in older females,
The other was spayed already so is not valid for a statistical calculation.
Therefore it put my girl in the 100% bracket, not the million to one.
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01-04-2008, 07:34 PM
Originally Posted by Bilclarie
Raven my youngest male one his class earlier in the year beating 5 other junior dogs which included 2 cropped dog's ears don't come in to it, it's the overall confirmation of the dog itself, Raven was just the better dog on the day.
Mo and the Gang
That kinda throws the clinging to `breed standard` excuse out the window then...
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01-04-2008, 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Patch
In some cases it can make a difference - a very beneficial one
In very young neuter, [ 8 weeks as it usual in the US ], growth plate closure is sometimes slightly slowed, resulting in better bone density and strength. It by no means happens in all cases but when it does happen, its a beneficial bonus
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01-04-2008, 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Patch
Not true.
Also not true in the case of closed pyo, [ which my girl had ]. Closed pyo give no outward symptoms - until its too late.
Spay has no impact on mental maturity, the hormones involved affect physical maturity - and are in place by the age of 5 months on average. Mental maturity is down to genetics and environment
Hmmm, at the time my girl had Pyo I had two girls, her and one other.
The other was spayed already so is not valid for a statistical calculation.
Therefore it put my girl in the 100% bracket, not the million to one.
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01-04-2008, 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Malady
I think if you do some serious research there is nothing to suggest that it does affect growth rates, if tehre is, I would like to have the links to the studies done.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=uk
http://www.geocities.com/thesheltiepage/SpayNeuter.html
http://www.thewagway.com/Behviour%20...and_neuter.htm
The difference is minimal in those it affects, fractions of an inch taller at most basically
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01-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Originally Posted by alexandra
so dogs can still have pups if spayed or castrated??
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01-04-2008, 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
Are you a responsible owner? Do you or would you let your bitch out in season? WHy do you think its acceptable to give a healthy dog a GA, and remove bits of it when there is nothing wrong with it? Would that be acceptable in people? I mean if we cut off our boobs we would not be able to get breast cancer, right??
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01-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Patch
Approximately 3% of bitches develop spay incontinence. However, its easy to resolve and therefore is a non-problem - spay incontinence controlled by propalin prevents it being an issue at all, that won`t kill - pyometra does
) or use an excuse like preventing unwanted puppies as a valid reason for routine neutering, when being a normal responsible owner will prevent ANY unwanted puppies.
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