How you can have a good old laugh when people have been trying to help you, says a lot about you Gnasher. Very sad person.

He did - but did I ever say that I had ignored him, or indeed consoled him? Or anything-ed him?

No you have not Heather, I have been subjected to unprecedented bitching and downright nastiness. You are all as jealous as cats because I have, so far, been proved right, and, so far, you have all been proved wrong.

Just had my daily morning update from OH. Ben has had another exemplary walk, with no need for the collar to be vibrated even. He has come when he was called, and apparently has met several dogs, and greeted them calmly, instead of rushing up to them.

The best thing of all this is that he and Tai are just bosom buddies now. What's more, Gucci foolishly took a bit of carrot off Ben in the conservatory, and Ben didn't turn a hair. The last time Gucci did that, he was severely reprimanded.

Did I say you did any of these things? I said you let him howl for the full time
You say he did howl for the full time - so you did nothing that calmed his state of mind and stopped him howling
You havent said what you did or didnt do, I made no assumptions on that - just going by your post - whatever you did or didnt do it didnt work - so your dog was in a distressed state all that time

Perhaps that was a bit harsh of me, I am sure that you have been genuinely concerned about the use of an e collar on Ben. But, when things looked good, instead of saying "well, it's early days, but I am glad that things are improving", the wrath of God comes down on me and I start to get seriously criticised for such ridiculous nonsense of taking my dogs out for a walk with my husband!!

Talk about scraping the barrel!!

But I apologise if I was a bit harsh.

Ben! You JUMPED to conclusions that I had done NOTHING!!

Just ignored him, to carry on howling.

Really!

So what did you do then Gnasher to stop the howling, because whatever it was didn't work did it? Thank god it wasn't your o/h left behind with him as he would probably have been zapped.

I said

You LET your dog howl the whole time your OH was in the pub

I didnt say you did or didnt do anything to address it - just that he howled the whole time
You have agreed that he did howl the whole time - I jumped to no conclusiosn

I didnt say whether or not you tried anything - just commenting that no matter what was or was not done the poor dog howled the whole time

jealous of what? an e collar? nope!,a fake wolfdog?(altho a handsome one) nope!northern breed behavior? nope!

And Gnasher please drop the jealousy bit as nobody on this blog is jealous of your training with an e-collar. I can assure you of that. The outcome means nothing if you have to shock your dog to get there.