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30-04-2008, 03:18 PM
Unbelivable! I cant belive that they are blaming the dogs! ts the same with children if you dont show them whats good and bad how are they supposed to know? I blame the owner whos being to much of a coward to admit that the dogs belong to thm (or maybe they just havent noticed that their two rottweilers have gone missing?)
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30-04-2008, 03:31 PM
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The problem with licening is that the people who are irresponsible owners now will still avoid it and do everything they are not supposed to and the responsible people will abide by the law as usual !
Yes, maybe... but it will be a deterrent , and if there is a fine or imprisonment for not having it.. then it is bound to put the wrong type of people of.


I was personally seriously attacked and mauled by a Rott, so it did happen to me personally, and I still knew it was the Owners fault, not the dogs, even at a very young age and no the dog was not PTS, in fact I actively requested the dog be rehomed with someone responsible instead of being punished for being owned by the local moron !

[I]Well thats very noble of you.. but im sure not all people can lose property or suffer injury ,.. and say the dog is completely unaccountable..I too was attacked by a dog..although, luckily I didnt need stitches, and was ok, and I didnt ask for the dog to pts..but I was concerned that it might happen to another person. It was a great dane, a family pet.and the owners were amazed that he could have done such a thing. Besides i dont think its the dogs fault..but its still the dog in most circumstances which suffer with their life.. and I believe their are some dogs who are so disturbed. that they shouldnt be given opportunity to do such a thing. But it does again boil down to the owner.. if they own a dog which is so disturbed then they should be conscious of that, at all times. and handle it as necessary[/]I].

Yes things are getting out of hand, but it's still not the fault of the breed.

I'm an ex horse owner too and had horses for years and I too would be devastated, but lets punish the people who are really responsible here for raising badly bred/bad tempered dogs, and being irresponsible owners.

Animals are animals and Society is so hypocritical : It's OK to slaughter farm animals and horses to send to france for food and ALLOW the cruel keeping and raising of puppy farmed dogs, but don't let a dog be a dog or the breed will be damned as devil dogs !!!
[I]I dont feel that savaging a horse is a dog being a dog.. if dogs did that on a day to day basis.. then they wold be like tiger s and lions and kept in a zoo. And its not legal for puppy farms to exist..and many owners have been prosecuted for this, as well as inflicting cruelty on dogs[/I]'Let's allow them to be bred and raised badly then punish them when they step out of line'. Our Government may as well set traps, as all badly bred/raised dogs are set up for a fall anyhow.

I do agree that the government have to intervene to do something positive BEFORE any more incidents like these occurr
This government need a reality check on which laws need to be governed.

If you ban one breed, the 'tough nuts' will simply find another, and another, and another, until there will be no breeds left to choose from !
Well, I think its more a case of banning dogs which are evidence is showing to be dangerous in society..on numerous occassions ok, owners should have control over their dogs.. but with the best intentions in the world.. its not always possible to control an animal.. dogs can be unpredictable. I dont think you can always blame the owner.. some attacks have happened by dogs which were normal family pets.

The restraint needs to be on the people unscrupoulously breeding dogs of bad quality and bad temperaments and selling them to just anyone for money, allowing them to go to the wrong hands, who don't have good intentions.

Until the Government steps in at the root of the problem, these issues will continue.
I dont think it is the dog s fault entirely..but it is difficult to suggest that the dog is completely blameless.Although there my have been background reasons for the dogs behaviour
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30-04-2008, 03:38 PM
Horses..the only dogs that have been shown to be dangerous is dogs owned by idiots! you cant pin it to one breed!
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30-04-2008, 03:39 PM
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I dont think it is the dog s fault entirely..but it is difficult to suggest that the dog is completely blameless.Although there my have been background reasons for the dogs behaviour
I believe the dogs are completely blameless. To suggest anything else would imply that they have made a conscious decision to kill a horse. They acted on instinct because they had not been trained or socialised. Would you blame a cat for killing a bird?
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30-04-2008, 03:42 PM
Can I just add that I love Rottweilers, and all breeds too
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30-04-2008, 03:42 PM
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30-04-2008, 03:45 PM
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That website is so annoying!!
i know! infuriating.. don't think i can go back on but keep up the good work guys!
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30-04-2008, 03:45 PM
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Horses..the only dogs that have been shown to be dangerous is dogs owned by idiots! you cant pin it to one breed!
No, Im not suggesting pinning anything to one breed..
I am saying that some dogs, all kinds are extremely difficult to socialise, and are untrustworthy... for no apparent reason as the owners have done their best.. Fine for an extremely experienced dog handler, but not Joe Public

And I also know of cases were dogs have attcked people,,and the owners are far from idiots, but are real genuine dog lovers..where tragedy has struck
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30-04-2008, 03:59 PM
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I believe the dogs are completely blameless. To suggest anything else would imply that they have made a conscious decision to kill a horse. They acted on instinct because they had not been trained or socialised. Would you blame a cat for killing a bird?
Sorry, I maybe missed that part, did they say the dogs had never been socialised, had they been locked up or ill treated?? I dont know the facts.. But I wouldnt consider a domesticated dogs natural instincts to kill, more a wolf, or fox , Yes to guard their homes, owners, etc. but not to kill something.
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30-04-2008, 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by horses01466 View Post
Sorry, I maybe missed that part, did they say the dogs had never been socialised, had they been locked up or ill treated?? I dont know the facts.. But I wouldnt consider a domesticated dogs natural instincts to kill, more a wolf, or fox , Yes to guard their homes, owners, etc. but not to kill something.
The dogs escaped from an inclosure, not a garden or house, which led me to assume that they were guard dogs and not pets.IMHO
To talk generally about dogs not having a natural instinct to kill. RR are hounds and are very capable of bringing down prey. I used to have a patterdale terier who would quite happily killed any rodent, bird or rabbit he could catch.
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