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21-07-2012, 06:30 PM
its similar to queen anne legs in ESS and JRT.s
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21-07-2012, 06:47 PM
It looks very similar to my springer spaniels front legs. The vet referred him to Liverpool animal hospital and I am still waiting to find out if surgery is needed after he had a scan. The specialist has been off sick since.

In benjis case it's not rickets it's just the bones aren't growing properly for some reason.
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21-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by kodimeg View Post
It looks very similar to my springer spaniels front legs. The vet referred him to Liverpool animal hospital and I am still waiting to find out if surgery is needed after he had a scan. The specialist has been off sick since.

In benjis case it's not rickets it's just the bones aren't growing properly for some reason.
is it to do with the ulna ?
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21-07-2012, 07:44 PM
From The Merck Veterinary Manual


Rickets is a disease of young, growing animals. The most common causes are dietary insufficiencies of phosphorus or vitamin D. Calcium deficiencies can also cause rickets, and while this rarely occurs naturally, poor balanced diets that are deficient in calcium have been said to cause the disease. As in most diets causing osteodystrophies, the abnormal calcium to phosphorus ratio is most likely the cause.
Clinical Findings and Lesions:
The characteristic lesions of rickets are failure of both vascular invasion and mineralization in the area of provisional calcification of the physis. This pathology is most obvious in the metaphyses of the long bones. There may be a wide variety of clinical signs, including bone pain, stiff gait, swelling in the area of the metaphyses, difficulty in rising, bowed limbs, and pathologic fractures. On radiographic examination, the width of the physes is increased, and the nonmineralized physeal area is distorted. In advanced cases, angular limb deformity can be seen due to asynchronous bone growth.
Animals fed all-meat diets are commonly affected. Kittens that are fed beef heart exclusively develop locomotor disturbances within 4 wk, even though the high content of digestible protein (>50% on a weight basis) and fat promotes rapid growth, the animals appear well nourished, and their coat maintains a good luster. The predominant clinical signs are reluctance to move, posterior lameness, and ataxia. The kittens often stand with characteristic deviation of the paws. The skeletal disease becomes progressively more severe after 5-14 wk. The kittens become quiet and reluctant to play; they assume a sitting position or sternal recumbency with the hindlimbs abducted. Normal activities may result in the sudden onset of severe lameness due to incomplete or folding fractures of 1 or more bones. Lameness is the initial functional disturbance in growing dogs and may vary from a slight limp to inability to walk. The bones are painful on palpation, and folding fractures of long bones and vertebrae are common.
Rickets and other bone pathologies have been reported in young pigs housed indoors and fed processed feed. Processing of the feed removes natural vitamin D and other fat-soluble vitamins. Without vitamin supplementation, nutritional osteodystrophy may result.
Diets with excessive amounts of calcium (3 times normal concentrations) have caused ricket-like signs in growing Great Danes. Several other bone pathologies such as retained cartilaginous cores, osteochondrosis, and stunted growth were seen in these dogs as well.

Treatment:
Correction of the diet is the primary treatment. The prognosis is good in the absence of pathologic fractures or irreversible damage to the physes. If the animals are housed, exposure to sunlight (ultraviolet radiation) will also increase the production of vitamin D3 precursors.
Recent studies show that many homemade diets for dogs are deficient in minerals and have altered calciumhosphorus ratios. Therefore a high-quality commercial food, or one designed by a credentialed veterinary nutritionist, is recommended.
Not sure I agree with the bit in purple
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22-07-2012, 12:20 PM
my son and his wife adopted a lurcher pup from a rescue centre,this poor little girl had been through the mill abandoned with a broken pelvis and a fractured skull and all this at just 8 weeks old!makes me so angry the cruelty to animals by the few.anyway when she walked it was as if she was walking on the top part of her feet the rest of the foot was bent right over.the vet they took her to suggested rickets which made sense but after a few months she is walking normally and i would imagine that a good diet has helped because she was so underweight you could count all her ribs and see her spine clearly.so clearly it wasn't rickets.i am just so amazed about how trusting she is bless her and she is a lovely pet although very frisky and lively.
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27-07-2012, 08:11 PM
Of the 2 pups that were thought to have ricketts one has been given a clean bill of health the other will be checked in 2 weeks...
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28-07-2012, 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by rough View Post
i bought a rough puppy some 20 years ago that had acondroplascia, iot usually shows itself between 8 and 12 weeks.it looks very similar to what the boxer pups are displaying. do you know how long their legs have been like it?
Rough was your pup a dwarf as this condition can be associated with dwarfism and the boxers don't look that small.

Murf, have the pups been xrayed? It could be carpal valgus where the long bones grow at different rates. It would be nice to think there would be an improvement in 2 weeks - fingers crossed.
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