Thanks for the replies I am going to look into seeing someone, we have tried a ball and toys and high value foods but he's just not interested, I try playing with him at home and garden but he just isn't interested I throw a ball and he sees it but just stands there uninterested unlike my other lab who loves to retrieve.

The only thing that gets Jenson excited is playing tug with a rope but we have even tried this on walks but once he sees a dog he is 100% focused on the dog. Even when you get his lead out he just stands still and puts his head down while my other lab is over excited.

Thanks Sarah

some dogs will need to be managed for life ,some may never like other dogs, some dont like f//m some, males.some, strange dogs.all you can do is curb there behaviour, keep all safe, use a leash at all times.there everyhere where i live..and there is also hope that you do not have a dog like this. got some of the best here at dogsey to help, good luck

tugging may send messages to your dog you may not want.respectfully...i never tug

My dog is similar and I am seeing Cath Phillips at Rochdale at the moment. She seems good and only uses positive methods as far as I know but I have only had one session so far. She enourages lots of treats and uses soft toy dogs at first. I found it quite funny at first but i think it will help.

tugging can be a great idea - stress/frustration outlet, training tool, etc.

what message are you worried about?

in some dogs iv worked that tugged,it creates compition between you and the dog, something you may not want.i find the dog to push on me and to want to exert dom.with an aggresssive dog why, bother to promote, to elivate .some dogs are fine,tugging is the root of lots of behaviours iv fixed, there are lots of other ways to tier your dog,than to compete with them....for me

i wondered i you were anti tugging due to dominance ideas.

i dont believe in the dominance theory and think it very healthy to encourage a tugging contest under set conditions.

yes.. and i see dom in my yard everyday, you have a different name.?.respectfully.i let my dogs be dogs and intervine when i have to.iv got an alfa and subordanats as well.they practice dog behaviour with out me, dominance is one of them,and no there not wolves!

its called dominance in england as well

still dont believe in it as regards dogs and humans

i let my dogs be dogs and intervene when needs be as well,
im still not sure how you connected all that with the lady on this thread playing tug games with her dog?

Cath is great.