Oh dear, and there's me thinking you posted this:

Silly me for thinking otherwise!

Absolutely typical, and totally expected!

Due to our society having come a long way and not needing to kill for pleasure we can generally find substitute ways of enjoying watching the dogs work as they were designed to. Various trials and lots of scurries in the case of gundogs.

I have a good idea that had I just left the first post you would have said no anyway---however being honest I had to say that I really don't have the stomach to spend a day watching people rejoice in their dogs killing other animals. I have a feeling that whatever you hoped to prove would be overshadowed by the revulsion.

rune

Yeah, I believe you Lynn, course I do. Lets walk a beating line then, bring your Spaniel, give it all the commands you need, will be fun!

Its pathetic when you post crap, because thats what it is about being great to see a dog doing what it was designed for, then you moan about dogs not being fit for function, show dogs etc.. absolutely typical and ultimately hypocritical. I suggest you stick to teaching tricks and stay all pink and fluffy, leave the dogs that do a job to those who appreciate the dogs history, heritage and their abilities, and dont teach them to dance and perform in an attempt to make money from them! Pathetic.

As a matter of interest, how many other people in the show world agree with you on the coat being excessive!!

Taking your view on the pics of the historical forefathers of the breed being correct, then surely you will be aware that breeds have evolved by generations of views on what dictates their interpretation of "breed standard"!

If things stood still , then in my own breed we would see the White Boxer , followed by the Solid, as the correct type in the ring, instead of the "flashy" that we see today!!

That pic is fab Dawn, I know from my friend who breeds Vizsla , that her pups will start showing "natural instinct" around 5/6 weeks when she puts them outside in the playpen (depending on the weather) they are showing signs of instinct, around 7 weeks old when she lets them play in her grounds (she has a big equestrian property , along with chickens and other, the pups instinct is in abundance... and you will see as the pic you posted, their natural instinct to point come to the surface.

Have to say, I love watching these little HPR puppies mature, their natural instinct is endearing to watch!!

The chickens are very good teachers for the pups to practice on

Would have loved to give you reppies for that post , but it wont let me!!

Never a truer word said.

oh yes, I know a chap that uses chickens with his pups (pointers) they are very good indeed. he watches them from about 5wks, for natural ability and instinct, at 7wks he takes them outside individually to see how they are when they see "game" that inbuilt instinct is superb.

Thanks, just hate those people who see fit to post pictures of a terrified dog in a car with a "calming cap" on it, instead of thinking about the poor thing and NOT forcing to to travel in the car, let alone taking pictures of it and posting them on a forum! Then those that criticise breeders who they see as money makers, yet advertise their own dogs to do tricks and perform for people, just so very pathetic!

Whats one of those, I guess the clue is in the title, but thats a new one for me

A thing that covers a dogs face and eyes so it cant see where its going, supposed to make them calm, in Runes's words it makes HER journey "bearable" Poor dog, I feel so sorry for it.

Its amazing to watch their instinct kick in..

Mind, they always seem to leave the Cockerels alone for some reason