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30-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by dollyknockers View Post
I find this thread very interesting , and very educational xxdk
yeah i bet you do
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30-10-2007, 09:39 PM
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ALso why take out money for trainin vouchers ??

If thats what she likes to give, why take out the cost for it.

You're trying to find fault with what ethical breeders give their pups now are you ? Or are you just miffed because rescue dogs leave for their new home with nothing ?
Ok last reply to you because your posts are becoming more and more rude.

I mentioned taking out the vouchers so that we could see average costs, most breeders don't give out training vouchers.

Not showing off here but your implying all rescue dogs leave with nothing, our dogs are Fully vaccinated, Fully veterinary checked, Fully behaviour assessed, Wormed and flead, Neutered, Microchipped and Leave with a doggy bag includes; Book on training and behaviour, Lead & Collar, I/d tag, 2 or more toys, bag of food and treats. Maybe apart from the doggy bag you will find most rescues provide these.

Personally I think it's just silly comparing and not what this thread is about.
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30-10-2007, 09:41 PM
oh and I really did make a loss I just realised I carpeted out the welping box for the first couple of weeks(changing regularly)with new cheap carpet. grrrrr thought I had put everything in lol I am sure more outgoings will crop up the more I think about it, but only one sum came in that will never change lol.

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30-10-2007, 09:43 PM
Originally Posted by dollyknockers View Post
I find this thread very interesting , and very educational , maybe the BYB and PF of this world should come on here and have a read , maybe just maybe they would do things the ethicle way , but when they are the ones making the loads of cash ,instead of the ethicle breeders ,who actually put there heart and soul into breeding , i would doubt it ,as all they see is a fast way to make money xx dk
whats fast about making money out of breeding dogs?dk i ask you,youre a breeder and ethical one so how can a byb make money if they cut costs on feeding health checks etc then surely theyl loose money in the end.
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30-10-2007, 09:44 PM
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and to come on here and try to make out that each and every breeder on here are bybs then im affraid it dont wash,
What?? at no point have I said or insinuated that the breeders on here a bybs, I don't for one minute believe that nor have I said that.
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30-10-2007, 09:45 PM
[quote=AnneUK;1164855]Ok last reply to you because your posts are becoming more and more rude.

I mentioned taking out the vouchers so that we could see average costs, most breeders don't give out training vouchers.

Not showing off here but your implying all rescue dogs leave with nothing, our dogs are Fully vaccinated, Fully veterinary checked, Fully behaviour assessed, Wormed and flead, Neutered, Microchipped and Leave with a doggy bag includes; Book on training and behaviour, Lead & Collar, I/d tag, 2 or more toys, bag of food and treats. Maybe apart from the doggy bag you will find most rescues provide these.
i think if you researched ethical breeders youl find thats what they go to there new home with also.along with kc reg cert,and pedigrees,and agreements.
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30-10-2007, 09:45 PM
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whats fast about making money out of breeding dogs?dk i ask you,youre a breeder and ethical one so how can a byb make money if they cut costs on feeding health checks etc then surely theyl loose money in the end.
because they do not pay out the costs of ethicle breeders , health tests ,heating , vet bills , proper housing etc so they have a lot more profit ,
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30-10-2007, 09:48 PM
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Ok last reply to you because your posts are becoming more and more rude.

I mentioned taking out the vouchers so that we could see average costs, most breeders don't give out training vouchers.

Not showing off here but your implying all rescue dogs leave with nothing, our dogs are Fully vaccinated, Fully veterinary checked, Fully behaviour assessed, Wormed and flead, Neutered, Microchipped and Leave with a doggy bag includes; Book on training and behaviour, Lead & Collar, I/d tag, 2 or more toys, bag of food and treats. Maybe apart from the doggy bag you will find most rescues provide these.

Personally I think it's just silly comparing and not what this thread is about.
No they dont! You are now doing exactly what Mo is doing. SHE is a responsible ethical breeder, I assume you are in a similar vein in your rescue? So you are implying you dont make profit, when Mo does, which of course is wrong, especilayy when MANY rescue dogs that come in are already fully vaccinated, already neutered, already microchipped, already house trained and socialised and dont spend much time at all in rescue!
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30-10-2007, 09:48 PM
Fact is AnnUK unless you actually mix with reputable breeders and really know what they do and dont do you should not really make any comments, because you may not really know any by the sounds of it, you may know breeders but thats something entirely different, ALL the REPUTABLE breeders I know (and I do know quite a few) the list I gave is average. and I personally think you DO have issues with breeders wether they are reputable or not, I know you deal with rescues and thats a good thing but you shouldnt let that cloud your judgement with regards to the breeders that make every effort to protect their breed, and their breeding because there are many out there that are NOT just in it for the buck.

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30-10-2007, 09:49 PM
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because I as a breeder give these and that MY perogative as a breeder, and I feel I AM reputable, and these ARE part of my being reputable.
Good on you for supplying these, I applaud you I really do :smt001
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