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Originally Posted by Steve Wishart
All that I have derived since joining is that this forum isn't to help dog owners, it's for dog owners to brag about how much they know and disagree with anything and everything.
[QUOTE=Patch;1399698]In your posts that seems to be the case, I just wish you could see that it`s what you have been doing since you arrived, this is everyone`s forum for everyone`s dogs, Dogsey does not exist to be about you you youQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve Wishart
well ive taken the trouble to read all of this thread and I have to say Steve I agree with Patch, you said your initial thread wasnt a statement but it was.
Now take it from me I can start an argument in an empty room and ive pulled people up on the way they say things, offer unsolicited advice etc and I also hope that Ive been man enough to apologise and build bridges when Ive over stepped the mark, but I think youhave just put yourself up there to be shot down in flames.
You opened this thread with a blatant statement, the Steve Manifesto ( though for copyright infringement I will call it the Cambridge Institute Manifesto too ) on dog psychology.
I applied and paid for a number of the courses but work commitments meant i couldnt see them through so i recognise a lot of what you are saying. I bought all the reading material from Coppinger to Milan etc and have the syllabus and course overviews etc so I see where your ideas are coming from - them.
You have had 8 years experience so that means you have been a dog behaviourist since you were 16 which is very commendable and if you do want an argument, highly unlikely me old mucker.
If i had a problem dog and you turned up as a 16 year old Id think you were collecting for the scouts or delivering my free newspaper. I wouldnt let a 16 year old fix my boiler, I wouldnt let one fix my dog.
So lets assume at best you were doing it from 18 - given the fact that you dont advertise but have a half finished website with a picture of a chihahua and breed facts on it - I am then to assume that your clients are word of mouth - now im gonna take a long shot and say that if Mr Milan took 15 years to establish himself as a dog 'psychologist' you are well on your way to getting your own TV show.
So a word of mouth business takes minimum two years to get established so now we talking 20ish ( but hey im assuming you didnt stay on and do A levels or go to university - did you ?) before you really got going - so your experience has halved from that already stated by you of 8 years ( if you went uni then we talking 2 years max ).
So then you come crashing onto the forum with the HEAR ME HEAR ME - DOG BEHAVIOURIST HAS LANDED everyone listen.
Now Patch who I have clashed with before then analysed and broke down your STATEMENT and came back with her own views as did a few others and this seemed to p1ss you off....why did you start the thread to discuss or to preach???
I may not have seen eye to eye with Patch but I would not think of telling her how it should be as her experience dwarfs mine ( and yours buddy ) - not saying i have to agree with her views on ideologies, but I have to respect what she knows about dogs.
You make a statement Dogs are omnivours and then dont like the fact that someone says no.
I dont like people giving advice when its not asked for, but you havent even come across as giving advice - youre talkng AT people and dont like it when people are answering - unless they are called Malady and agree with you.
You also dont take time to read peoples comments that arent about you.
So take your hand off it for a second Steve, theres plenty to argue about, but you picking a fight about something with people way ahead of their game than you is just nonsense and to go off sulking when they dont agree - says a lot. Someone says something you dont gree with then let them have it, but dont cop the hump if all they are saying is they dont agree with you or believe you.
So when did you leave education Steve so we can clear up this 8 years dog behaviourist experience I dont swallow ?
And tell me something you havent read in a book from your Cambridge coursework ?
Patch print this comment of and frame it - youre right.