If a dog doesn't behave the way the owner wants it to (in whatever way that might be) but the owner lets it do what it likes when it likes, the dog is never going to behave how the owner wants it to behave.

By giving the dog rules/boundaries, then rewarding the dog for following those rules/boundaries, the dog knows it has to do what the owner wants to get what it wants.

That's just basics isn't it?

I guess you'll just quote varying parts of my posts now - I get the M.O. now, but I think you know what I'm trying to explain really

Wouldn't the positive training way be to teach him to do something else while the dog was at the window?

Teaching a dog boundaries and manners is jus that teaching them boundaries and manners... if you dont want a dog to go on the furniture, you set boundaries, if you want a dog to sit before you go out, you teach manners.

But those boundaries and manners are not going to be the cure for all issues.

You can have a dog who knows, the house rules, yet still has an issue with A, B, or C..... keeping a dog confined to a space is not going to cure that issue.

As I said if you have a dog that "guards" furniture, dont let it on the furniture....

If you have a dog that guards his toys , but gets off the furniture when told, why exclude him from the sofa

Horses for courses as they say.. a problem needs to be solved as the problem arises, NOT do a blanket ban on everything , hoping that will teach the dog boundaries

Ofcause a dog will learn from rewarding what ever rules you set down..but they have to be addresses separately.

not read all the threads....

bu i think caesar milan is a prat.....


nuff said

Rune; wish you had done this as a poll as my processor is too slow to read each page.

I would never let him have my dogs. Taki would return more fear aggressive than ever and CM would be scarred for life; and gentle sweet Ilo would be miserable with being bullied, yanked around and way too hot in LA with all her fur (she does not do swimming pools). Both would miss their off-leash freedom on the reserve and the rabbits, stoats and mice around here and consider rollerblades and treadmills and a dusty yard with a ball (neither retrieve much) a ridiculous substitute. I would miss them and would worry about their interaction with him every second.

summs it up really , short and sweet

That would be CM's way too, "Do offer your dog an alternative to the disallowed behaviour"

I actually agree with this completely

Yes ofcause it would, I was condensing the example.

I'm getting the sense that you are deliberately misinterpreting my post and I guess I'm wondering what that's about. On the other hand I could be wrong and it could be all my fault for not being clear enough.

Never mind, I know what I mean and it doesn't matter if you don't know what I mean