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04-03-2005, 10:28 AM
i only quoted it as emma said the people on here here have no probs with two staffiers being together and i remembered reading on your post yesterday that you dont 100% trust the staffies not to fight
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04-03-2005, 10:30 AM
Originally Posted by CBT
Originally Posted by katyb
cbt did post this though
(the staffies get an individual bit hacked off for themselves, they dont get fed communally as they cant be trusted 100% not to fight )
and a few members have commented on not trusting their staffs with other dogs but fine with people
sorry being devils advocate dont hit me i am off to count in the garden
Katy B I dont really see what my feeding preferences for my dogs have to do with this thread?
If I had said GSDs instead of staffies would you be quoting me?
My dogs live outdoors in kennels and are working dogs, they are not the same as pet dogs which live in the house, so I dont think its fair to snip one little bit of what I said and quote it on another thread which has nothing to so with feeding?
I dont allow the staffies to all feed at the same time as they do have that potential there to fight, but then so do many other breeds of dog, throw some raw meat in amongst a group of mongrels and you will probably see a fight break out I feed my dogs individually because I am a responsible dog owner who doesnt want my dogs fighting.
My two are fed together, they both feed on kibble in bowls either side of their water bowl no problems. Quite often they swap bowls and more often than not Cassy ends up in Kips bowl as she is usually first to finish and VERY greedy lol. When they get raw meat like chicken it's another story though.
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04-03-2005, 10:33 AM
..CBT you can have a plain non fattening one...if ever Staffy gets here with them and the tea is going cold!! Staffy get your bum over here and stop eating the cream buns
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04-03-2005, 10:34 AM
Katy ( ) if mine have pigs ears, lets say, then i seperate them, for normal feeding they are together, but this does not just go for Staffs, it can go for any multi dog household, with any breed you have to use common sense and remember dogs natural instincts, they are like kids, give them sweets, and when they have finished theirs they will try and nab the others, and a fight will start, one kid wants to watch something on TV the other wants to watch something else, they fight over it, its a natural animal instinct and not some thing just confined to dogs or more importantly staffs
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04-03-2005, 10:35 AM
my dogs are probably not as good tempered as the majority of the pet staffies owned by members on here. They are very loving affectionate dogs with people, and the majority of the time they get on well with each other, but they can play very rough and occaisionally fights can break out which is not something I relish, so I go all out to try and prevent fights breaking out by closely supervising my dogs playtimes and not allowing them to share food. These are the times fights are most likely to happen.
My dogs have game dog blood in their recent pedigree so they are a little bit more fiery than staffies which have been bred for generations to be pet and show dogs, now Im not in any way saying thats a bad thing, because it means that staffies do have a milder temperament and they make excellent pets
but because my dogs come from a line used for fighting in the not so distant past, I have to take those extra precautions to make sure they are under control and well behaved at all times, Im sure you can understand that?
I dont know if other irish staff owners have noticed but I find them to be more wilful dogs and they require a bit more training and handling than an average stafford. so it pays to be cautious and stay safe when exercising them in public, and also when they are at home, to make sure they dont harm another dog.
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04-03-2005, 10:40 AM
having just said that, the worst fight I have ever seen was between my collies, and over nothing so really it pays to be cautious with ANY breed of dog.
I think owners just like to be safe rather than sorry with bull breeds and supervise them because they have stronger jaw muscles and can bite harder and do more damage than your average dog can.
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04-03-2005, 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by CBT
my dogs are probably not as good tempered as the majority of the pet staffies owned by members on here. They are very loving affectionate dogs with people, and the majority of the time they get on well with each other, but they can play very rough and occaisionally fights can break out which is not something I relish, so I go all out to try and prevent fights breaking out by closely supervising my dogs playtimes and not allowing them to share food. These are the times fights are most likely to happen.
My dogs have game dog blood in their recent pedigree so they are a little bit more fiery than staffies which have been bred for generations to be pet and show dogs, now Im not in any way saying thats a bad thing, because it means that staffies do have a milder temperament and they make excellent pets
but because my dogs come from a line used for fighting in the not so distant past, I have to take those extra precautions to make sure they are under control and well behaved at all times, Im sure you can understand that?
I dont know if other irish staff owners have noticed but I find them to be more wilful dogs and they require a bit more training and handling than an average stafford. so it pays to be cautious and stay safe when exercising them in public, and also when they are at home, to make sure they dont harm another dog.
I would say the opposite about Cassy funnily enough, she is a lot easier to handle than some Staffords I know certainly she is much easier to handle than Kip the but you do need to have a firm hand as she is quite excitable at times but she is completley people crazy and always focused on people which makes it easy as she is always more than happy to do whatever please you rather than her. She is headstrong but no moreso than the norm, she is actually quite laid back in some respects she was easy to train and does most things she is told but she may be an exception rather than the rule? I do need to watch her around other dogs; she is not overly aggressive, she is quite happy to be around other dogs but will not tolerate a dog which threatens her in any way (in other words she wont start a fight but she will finish one).

I trust her and Kip together because Cassy is the boss and Kip does not challenge this. She established herself as boss a long time ago and this pecking order works fine in my home. They have had a few scraps in the past usually over jealousy but they seem to have brought Cassy out on top and this now works fine in the house.
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04-03-2005, 11:05 AM
Having read the last Few threads and I am sure this has been asked before on many occasions but not by me and I would be intersted in the response.

For what reason would you want a dog that was specifically bred for gameness? or a dog that has got some gameness bred into it?

And as I perceive it, though I may be wrong, there is only one real way to test gameness ie bring the dogs up to scratch in a pit, then how would you know?

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04-03-2005, 11:08 AM
I hear the rubbish about gameness and dog testing. Anyone who can do this has no love for any breed of dog it is just an extension of their own twisted ego

Do none of u see a problem with this? Alot of u irish staffie owners think gameness is most important in a staffie, when infact all that is going to happen is its going to fuel a ban in this lovely breed
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04-03-2005, 11:10 AM
i do have a question, tho it looks like stan has maybe answered.

A book im reading at the moment is saying about drives in certain dogs, like sheepdogs who have a drive to chase sheep as it is in their instincts to do so through breeding. So if a collie naturally chases sheep, a rottie naturally guards, then what are the bred drives that a staffie does?
I myself dont believe its to attack other dogs when its mainly the unsocialised ones that will do so like any other breeds and most of the staffies on here are NOT dog aggressive.

thnx
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