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08-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by MonkeyGeneral View Post
It's such a shame that most of this generation are being brought up to be fearful of dogs, and most of it is the parents fault for projecting their fears on to their children....all it takes is a bit of education on the parents side..
its also a shame that some dont have any fear!!

Seems to be two extremes and once in a blue moon you get a child that will just ask to pet the dog and is respectful of the answer.

I have had kids (that weigh less than him) stop in front of my dobe whilst he is giving it loudy at a dog and say 'can I clap the dog?' (which I thought wasnt bad [if a bit strange] until..) I said no, not now, he isnt happy'
to which I was asked 'CAN I clap the dog?' I said 'no, not now as he ISNT happy' then he says (he's about 4 years old btw) 'why not?'
"I said no"
'why not? will he bite?'
"no, you cant touch him"
to which his grandad decides to put him in the car....AFTER he asks AGAIN! (and informs me that if he wont bite him then he CAN touch him theres respect for adults eh! )

Others I have had run up and grab the harness in an attempt to take him for a walk, 'bark' in his face and so on.


Then there are the ones where the parents say 'oh look at the lovely big dog, why dont you clap it!'

And on the other extreme we get kids pulled to the side by the arm, people with buggies crossing the street and so on.

What happened to common sense and manners?

Seems there is no middle ground at all sometimes.
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08-05-2011, 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Insomnia View Post
I think it's sad too. I'm not expecting all children to be best friends with dogs, but it's sad when they're terrified to the point they run into the road to avoid my dog (luckily the Dad caught him, and I did explain to the child a car would hurt him much more than my dog).

Brilliant technique to show the eyes! Why were they so bothered? Maybe if my dog was cuter (in a conventional way) then children wouldn't be so scared. I think it's because he's muscly and black - the other colours don't seem the have quite the same reactions.
well I hate to be the one to say it but some kids are not scared, they have not learned to be scared, they are attention seeking. I see a lot of this. I am not saying that there arent children who do have a fear of dogs before anyone jumps on me but the amount of rude attention seeking children I see with bad acting is unreal - and of course it seems to work so they continue to go 'uh-uh-uh a dog' draw dirty looks at you etc and then when that dosnt work (after a slightly relaxed pause while they think about the next line, suddenly they are scared again and then comes..) 'aarrggh its a big dog...' to which they seem to get a 'its okkkaaay'....
(its so obvious that they are not scared and cannot act either)
Now I am sounding like a grumpy old woman here!!
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08-05-2011, 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Dobermann View Post
its also a shame that some dont have any fear!!

Seems to be two extremes and once in a blue moon you get a child that will just ask to pet the dog and is respectful of the answer.

I have had kids (that weigh less than him) stop in front of my dobe whilst he is giving it loudy at a dog and say 'can I clap the dog?' (which I thought wasnt bad [if a bit strange] until..) I said no, not now, he isnt happy'
to which I was asked 'CAN I clap the dog?' I said 'no, not now as he ISNT happy' then he says (he's about 4 years old btw) 'why not?'
"I said no"
'why not? will he bite?'
"no, you cant touch him"
to which his grandad decides to put him in the car....AFTER he asks AGAIN! (and informs me that if he wont bite him then he CAN touch him theres respect for adults eh! )

Others I have had run up and grab the harness in an attempt to take him for a walk, 'bark' in his face and so on.


Then there are the ones where the parents say 'oh look at the lovely big dog, why dont you clap it!'

And on the other extreme we get kids pulled to the side by the arm, people with buggies crossing the street and so on.

What happened to common sense and manners?

Seems there is no middle ground at all sometimes.
Sorry but what do you mean by clap????
Am i missing something.lol
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08-05-2011, 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by dizzi View Post
On the cyclist thing - I pull the dog to the side if I hear them coming up behind me... although bike bells appear to have been technologically superceeded by "OI GERROUTOFTHE WAY" - but when they come flying up like no one's business you DO sometimes really really hope for them to get their comeuppance... the one who dramatically swerved to avoid the dog sat right at the edge of the towpath and nearly went flying into the canal - I did think quietly to myself "would have served you soooo right."

They were a lot more sedate coming back on the return trip!
Some really are rude and outright dangerous how fast and close they go by, without using a horn/bell/voice, some are very appreciative and wave/say thanks when I recall Loui to heel while they pass and will go by slower, others just creep up and then almost colide with us....

I think what has come out of this thread is that there seems to be less all-round-manners now (in general)?
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08-05-2011, 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Murf View Post
Sorry but what do you mean by clap????
Am i missing something.lol
lol

must be a local thing
pet the dog = clap the dog
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08-05-2011, 06:07 PM
I did think it might be a scot's thing..
I had an image of a child standing in front of your woof giving it a round of applause..lol
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08-05-2011, 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Murf View Post
I did think it might be a scot's thing..
I had an image of a child standing in front of your woof giving it a round of applause..lol
That's what I thought too! Never heard of this expression before.
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08-05-2011, 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Tupacs2legs View Post
o/t but wtf!!!

id be carefull bout that bike riding if i was u...methinks they may need a diet lol


Think I meant 45 kilos!! I have only just started weighing myself in kilos, so still not into the metric thing. If they were 68 kilos they would weigh almost as much as me!!

Thanks for the correction!!
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08-05-2011, 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs View Post
I didnt say they did I was repsonding to your post where we were talking about the boxer and how it could be trained

wow touchy or what??

They dont jump but they say hello without being invited, they steal food and they charge into buildings

How cute
I am touchy ... wouldn't you be if you had to take the flak that's cast at me?

I am posting some pictures that we took today in the woods - we decided not to go out on a bike ride, but to do some walking with them combined with training. They were exemplary - here is the proof:



The above photograph is clear proof of my dogs' inability to sit on command



Note the absence of leads and the consequent appalling behaviour of my two boys - when this photo was taken there were a family with dogs walking past us.



Ben in the pub guarding his water bowl - you can just see the tip of Tai's tail in the background underneath the table. Again, perfect examples of dogs who are totally out of control and ill mannered.

Really, the way I abuse these poor dogs and allow them to be so ill-mannered and badly behaved, I really think I should be banned from keeping animals for ever more.
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08-05-2011, 07:17 PM
I suppose he ran into the shop too fast to get a picture of him helping himself.

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