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Originally Posted by
Lotsadogs
Or maybe it has been inadvertently taught by an unwitting owner? I have seen sooooooo many people use food and toys to get there dog out of "I'm not doing it/going there" mode. And the dog learns it and can may then use that mode. If you ask me to do the washing up I may or may not do it, but If I know if I leave it you will offer me £10 for doing it, then Ill be sure to refuse until you offer me £10.
Often this "mode" in pet dogs is taught in the first days of the puppy going out into the world. Puppy is scared, understandably, owners uses food to lure dog forward, dog learns if I stop still, I get food. Some dogs develop this into lying down and being floppy mode.
I was once saw a retriever who hated the car for whatever reason. He had adopted the lying down and not doing it mode. He then began using that in lots of different situation, being called into the house, being got off the bed, being taken to the vets,... Not much fun.
quote, yup totaly. Even though I ramble on I still dont cover all the points I mean too
But again its not dominance or anything - just a smart dog training an owner a behaviour chain
Thats why I like to work on the 'surprise treats are always an option' - rather than only getting a reward when a reward is in the owners hand
I see lots of people who say when playing fetch the dog wont give the ball back unless they have a treat intheir hands
really it is just a classic case of people not understanding how to fade out a lure
- basically people have treat in hand ask dog for the ball back, dog gives ball gets treat - all is good
owner then thinks the dog is 'trained' so dosent bring treat out, dog gives ball back, dosent get treat, quickly realises that he dosent get a treat for giving the ball back unless the treat is in the owners hand
smart dog
same I was working with a woman who said treat training wasnt working teaching her dog to walk nicely on the lead
He was a lovely smart GSD
He walked along nicely to heal for a few steps looking up at his owner - who ignored him - he then ran ahead a bit and started to pull, she called 'heel' he came back to her side and got a treat
she thought 'heel' ment walk nicely beside me
he though 'heel' ment 'If I want a treat I have to pull on the lead till she says that word then I run back to her hand to get a treat'
solution - be more rewarding and less predictable when they dog is doing the thing you actually want
Dogs are v specific in their smarts sometimes lol