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Sorr small black cat just wandered over keyboard and shut everything down - dont ya just love em
Originally Posted by
chaz
I have never said that it is ok for dogs to be pts, I have said repeatadly that I do not agree with everything that goes on in the industry, you just like to keep going over the same ground, picking on the same things, and getting no where, we are going around in circles, but maybe thats what you want
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Nope I think its what you want you will not take the industry to task over overbreeding, you think cruelty is not the main thing, you are full prepared to work for this industry.
Originally Posted by
chaz
When I got that I could think of one group of people, and actually I feel that it does answer it, as it gives you other people who do this, but then you don't want to hear this do you?:.
Its not about me not wanting to hear it, honestly, its that the one does not justify the other! I do not see why one group of people doing it justifies another group doing it – I have asked nicely what your point is on this – why bring it up, they are IMO both wrong! I already campaign against puppy farming etc as well.
Originally Posted by
chaz
Yes, but the whole industry is not cruel, you judge everyone from your moral high ground, there is probaly things that you do that everyone doesn't agree with, or things that people you associate with that people don't agree with, but then people wont immediatly judge you on what people you know have done, would they, so I don't think that the whole Greyhound racing should be judged, its unfair IMHO to do this, no group of people can be judged in such a way, as everyone is indiviuals.:.
To be honest I would want people to judge me if I associated with people who perpetrate cruelty and I would want them to judge me badly, but that’s just me. I could not associate with people who are cruel.
But yep I do agree there are things that some people wouldn’t agree with – me and Taz going around tree hugging when we’re high and drunk for one! Your welcome to join us if you fancy it though!
Originally Posted by
chaz
I was talking about straight from the racing kennels, and yes I helped out in a staffy rescue, what I'm saying is though if a racing kennels has loads of dogs there then they can't get as much one on one contact as if they were in a home, surely it would be better for people to rehome ex racers if they are not keeping them then wouldn't it be better for them to go into a pet home then stay at the racing kennels..:.
See I thought when you said not as many other dogs in rescue you were saying that there was somewhere with less 'other' dogs needing home the greys should get home. What I was trying to say is that every rescue right now is full to the brim with dogs regardless of breed and that the industry, because of over breeding is adding to that problem not helping it. Of course those greys in rescue need homes but so does every other dog in there! Again the over breeding is adding to the rescue problem wholesale!.
Originally Posted by
chaz
God you are so up yourself aren't you, and now you also know how I feel with your posts!! Its only recently that you came off the ignore list!!
You kept bringing things out of context, maybe you like doing that I don't know, you were quoting things that I said that were answers to a question from you!! And at one point was saying that I thought that no one else had expeirence because it was a favourite of yours to quote a answer to a question that you asked about what experience you have, I have been called cruel from you to point that its not even funny anymore!!
After this you will go back where you belong, on my ignore list, and I don't even care whether this post is considered personal, or anything either.
I maybe up myself in your opinion but I have had so many greyhounds seen so much that maybe its not so much up myself as very cynical of an industry that fights any welfare change possible.
IMO it was you who was bringing up things out of context such as byb’s, puppy farms etc and it seemed to me that you were bringing these up as an excuse for the industry. It was out of context in that this thread is about commercial greyhound racing.
I don’t recall calling you cruel once let alone many times I said we may differ on what we think is cruel.
I don’t actually consider it personal – not in a negative sense anyway – you have the right to ignore me and if you wish to that’s fine. Would love to know when and why I went on there in the first place though. I wont put you on ignore I have found our discourse interesting and will continue to watch your posts with interest and respond to them regardless.