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Location: Suffolk, England
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Originally Posted by
Helena54
Maybe they ought to consider bringing back apprenticeships for the young people who want to work, with the Government footing the bill or even going half way with the employer in the private sector. Apprenticeships worked well for many years,
it gave many people good working opportunities I could never understand why it doesn't happen anymore.
Well I've keept out of this so far but I must come in here and say that I entirely agree, I started my working life as an apprentice, we got about
half what the adults in each department received, we
had to attend evening college, and we
had to do all the dirty jobs and make the tea for the men, in addition in my case I had to get up at 05:30 every day to catch a rickety old bus with no heating and travel 30 miles to the firm with whom I was apprenticed
BUT in those five years I learned a hell of a lot about my trade and about how business works since I had to do six months in every department (Production, design, drawing office, purchasing, accounts, quality control, and more) at the end of my 'time' I had a good basic knowledge not just about my proffession but about all aspects of running a business and it has served me well ever since.
Then the government came along in the nineties and thought they could set up better trainning courses, all that happened was that the people on the dole had to attend to get their dole money,
Sheree's thread of two years ago shows what sort of 'attitude' these people have, there is no incentive to learn anything, no desire to get out of their nice cosy 'rut' where the government will take care of you no matter what you do or don't do, just go back and have a look at her thread and you'll see that all these government trainning schemes are just a way of manipulating the unemployment statistics the majority of the participants (Note that I did not say
all!) know how to 'play' the
system, they know how to 'play' one department off against another, and they sure as hell know how to contact a lawyer if they are treated with
even the slightest hint of hardship or heaven knows what other kind of infringement of their human rights
Government trainning schemes (Most of them)
do not work, five or in some cases seven years of hard graft at low wages and studying in the evenings
do work but you'll never get all these looters and arsonists to understand that, after all it means doing some work for a change doesn't it