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08-06-2011, 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by rune 
Anyone else now thinking this is a wind up? Enough nouse to know what has gone on in the distant past on this forum but can't use photobucket.
Posts that sound like they come from Gnashers twin.
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08-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by MickB
Goodness only knows where you read that! It sounds like a serious wind-up!!!
Genetic studies have shown quite clearly that both Malamutes and Huskies have been genetically distinct from the wolf for thousands of years - long before either the Spaniel or Setter were created
No they actually aren't. You are confusing look, behaviour and genetics. Mals and Huskies are no closer genetically to the wolf than is a Chinese Crested. GSD's I don't know about, but as they are a "modern" breed, they may or may not have wolf in them somewhere down the line if the founders of the breed had introduced some.
Mals and Huskies (as I said above) only look a little wolflike because that particular "look" - is, in evolutionary terms, very efficient given their geographical origin and the work they were bred for. Similarly, Husky behaviour can be (sort of) described as "wolflike" insofar as they have a pack orientation distinct from many other breeds. This again has less to do with any "closeness" to the wolf, than it does to the work they were developed to do - pull sleds as an efficient team.
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08-06-2011, 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by Tupacs2legs
your dogs sire was the 'import' yes?.... you sorted photobucket out yet?
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08-06-2011, 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by rune
Anyone else now thinking this is a wind up? Enough nouse to know what has gone on in the distant past on this forum but can't use photobucket.
Posts that sound like they come from Gnashers twin.
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08-06-2011, 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by beowulf881
If scientific research has proven that wolves and dogs have the same dna, how can sled dogs be genetically separate?I don't get it
Someone with a bit more knowledge care to clarify?
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08-06-2011, 06:41 PM
Originally Posted by beowulf881
Wow, I want one of those! I'm already lookin up grizzly bear breeders, and when I've finished hybridising them, I'm going to get them to eat my neighbours
Google Andrewsarchus, you might be even more impressed.
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08-06-2011, 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by murph
What are you reasons for 5?
I think F3 is just that little bit to close (jmo) to the pure wolf, to have started to make headway with removing undesirable temperament trates. If it was me breeding, that would be along with health, my first priority, getting things like the correct ear shape, eye colour, coat length are things that can come with time.
Out of interest where would you draw your line and why?
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08-06-2011, 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Magpyex
The book I'm in the middle of reading basically suggests that dogs are not direct descendants of wolves but that they share a common ancestor. I think that would explain the similarities in DNA?
Someone with a bit more knowledge care to clarify?
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08-06-2011, 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by tazer
Which book is it? I'm in the middle of...3 atm, though only one is specificly to do with the evolution of dogs.
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08-06-2011, 07:35 PM
Originally Posted by beowulf881
If scientific research has proven that wolves and dogs have the same dna, how can sled dogs be genetically separate?I don't get it
Mick
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