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proudmummy
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23-05-2011, 07:17 PM

Rant....i need to let loose!!

Sorry guys but i need to have a rant and get it off my chest.

A friend of mine, well im actually looking closely at our friendship at the moment, i dont even class her as a friend anymore, makes me sooooooo angry!! She has 3 dogs, a BC, a GSD and a SBT. So many things make me angry about her. Well for starters she keeps her BC in a crate all the time and i mean all the time. He is fed in their in the morning, then let out for the toilet and a drink (the only water she supplies her dogs is in the back garden, they are only let out twice a day) he then goes back in the crate and doesnt come out again untill he is let out in the evening before bed. He isnt even walked. It makes me angry that she even has him because i had a BC off her that she locked in the hallway all day because he was too excitable. She asked me to take him and said she would never have another one, 3 months later and she has this one locked in a crate all day! The crate isnt even in the living room either its in the pantry. The crate is big enough for him to move around but not to live in all the time!!

The GSD is gorgous, but so vicious he has to be locked away all the time. He even goes for her children. She says that he is a working secruity dog and that he is trained to be that way, no dog should be trained to go for children. He got loose out of the garden once and pulled a young girl off her bike in the street. The police have told her that he needs to be muzzled when he is walked, the result of that he no longer goes out for walks as she doesnt want to muzzle him. I know for a fact that he has never worked as a secruity dog because the nazdo trainer that they got to try and train him said he was too vicious to work. He doesnt belong in a family environment and i fear for her children.

The SBT is lovely and only 18 months old. She has only had a short time and got her 2 weeks aftershe lost her rottie bitch, who had breast cancer for 6 months before she did anything about her. As a result the rottie died. The SBT is kept in the kitchen away from the male dogs and doesnt even go in the back garden, she is taken over the road twice a day to do her business and is then put back in the kitchen. There is no interaction between this woman and he dogs at all, so when the occasional little bit of affection is given they go absolutley nuts, weeing everywhere and then rolling in the wee. They are also so fearful of her because she shouts at them and hits them if they have accidents, which i think are inevitable as they are only let out twice a day.

I have rang the RSPCA so many times and the only response i get is they have food and water and are healthy.

I lose sleep over this because i dont want them to have to suffer. The BC that i had off turned out to be a fantastic dog once he was excersised and loved properly. I once witnessed her partner kick the BC that i had in the privates after he nicked a bag of chips of the side because he hadnt been fed. That was the first argument we had over the dogs and was certainly not the last.

I also had a GSD off her that she brought at 8 years old to try and breed her GSD with. It wasnt untill i told her that 8 was to old to breed a dog that she gave her to me.

I want to help these dogs so bad but short off breaking into her house in the night and taking them i just dont know what else i can do
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23-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by proudmummy View Post
Well for starters she keeps her BC in a crate all the time and i mean all the time. He is fed in their in the morning, then let out for the toilet and a drink (the only water she supplies her dogs is in the back garden, they are only let out twice a day) he then goes back in the crate and doesnt come out again untill he is let out in the evening before bed.

Can you get proof of this to show the RSPCA?


The GSD is gorgous, but so vicious he has to be locked away all the time. He even goes for her children. She says that he is a working secruity dog and that he is trained to be that way, no dog should be trained to go for children.

If a NASDU member came to assess the dog either for training up for the present owner or for themselves consider that the temperament is unsuitable to work, then it must be pretty grim!

I want to help these dogs so bad but short off breaking into her house in the night and taking them i just dont know what else i can do
You can only do what you can do, if you have done all you can ie reported them to the RSPCA then you can do nothing else.
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23-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Unfortunately there's not a lot you can legally do. Unless you can prove they're being mistreated then the RSPCA will do absolutely nothing as the dogs have food, water and shelter.

Have you offered to help with training and exercising the dogs? I know you shouldn't have to and may not have the time but if you do it may put your mind at rest that they're at least getting out and getting some interaction even if it's not on a daily basis. I used to take my cousins dog out with mine at times coz they never bothered. Figured it was better than nothing. Obviously if she says no or you can't do it for reasons of your own then it's a useless idea.

I don't understand why people have dogs if they're just going to lock them away and ignore them practically all the time. They'd be better off with a stuffed toy.
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23-05-2011, 07:33 PM
That would totally break my heart having a friend who treats their dogs like that. I dont have any advice for you but your in a very difficuly situation. She is annoying you by the way she treats her dogs but you feel like you would be turning your back on the dogs most of all and should still keeps an eye on them just incase things do get worse.

I feel so sorry for the dogs, but as you said RSPCA wont do anything as long as they look healthy and arnt being neglected by not getting enough nutrition. I just cant understand people who get dogs and then dont bother with them at all. What a horrible existance for a dog, for any animal
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23-05-2011, 07:33 PM
I take her BC and SBT out whenever i can, i always call round when walking my 2 to see if i can walk them. She doesnt think she is doing anything wrong, she sees it as normal and that i 'molly-coddle' my dogs. I can stroke and feed and play with the GSD, her and her partner have no idea how i can but he will lie down and have a belly rub from me, but if any one else apart from her and her partner go near him he goes mental. He is chained to the wall in the spare bedroom. I have tried to get proof of the BC being in the crate but everytime the rspca go round she lets him out and acts like everythings fine.
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23-05-2011, 07:34 PM
I dont feel confident enough to walk the GSD
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23-05-2011, 07:40 PM
This must be so frustrating and upsetting for you. Is there any way she would consider rehoming these dogs? They clearly have no life whatsoever with her Why does she have dogs at all???

If she were my "friend" (although not sure I could remain friends with someone like this ) then I would be doing some straight-talking to her. Tell her she is being unnecessarily cruel to these dogs. They have no life with her and would be better in caring homes where they will get exercise, stimulation and attention. The thought of a border collie kept in a crate all day and never exercised or stimulated absolutely horrifies me

Is there any way you can talk some sense into this woman?

On the other hand, if she refuses to listen to sense, then perhaps you could offer to walk her dogs for her. As someone else has already said, it isn't the ideal solution for anyone, but at least you would know the dogs were getting some sort of exercise and stimulation in their lives.

So sad.
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23-05-2011, 07:48 PM
The only reason i still talk to her is so i can check on the dogs. It drives me insane and sometimes i think it would be easy to bang my head against a brick wall than to try talk sense to her. I have told her countless times that she needs to rehome the dogs.She also has 2 cats and they are treated great which i dont understand at all. I have even asked her to let me take them, even the GSD. I dont actually think it would be safe or a good idea to try and rehome the GSD i know it sounds awful but he is a danger to people and other dogs. I walk the BC and the SBT. I train both the dogs i taught both of them recall so they could have a good run when i can take them out and i try to socialise them with other dogs as much as possible. She wont let me take them and i know if i did she would get more and it would go on and on. At one point i was also looking after her horse everyday, she left him in a field for 2 weeks lame.
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23-05-2011, 07:50 PM
Chained to a bedroom wall This is heartbeaking to read and I wish I could go and steal him myself. Why on earth has she ANY dogs... I am so upset to read of these poor poor dogs living like this.
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23-05-2011, 07:54 PM
He's not just chained she padlocks the chain to his chocker and to the wall fixing and keeps the door locked so the kids cant get in. I was in there with him once feeding him and her middle son came him. The dog lunged for him i had to grab the chain to try and stop him, he was centimeters from the boys face.
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