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16-04-2009, 10:38 PM
''In summary, dogs live better lives when their owners are fair and consistent in their approach. They need to have set boundaries to help them function better within the confusing world in which we live. They need to know they can rely on us to be their guide and their teacher. We hope we have reassured you that your dog won't be asking you to subscribe to 'Tanks & Armaments Monthly', to help him plan his military campaign, and that he hasn't hotwired his Bonios to explode if you approach his basket without his permission.''
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16-04-2009, 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Louise13 
LOL Ailsa...I think I do the same with my dogs but I see that as me being the boss..LIke I said,,its all about what the individual perceives as being alpha..
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16-04-2009, 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
Who gave you that????? They are my mates they are.......
I keep asking for commission but they are not very forthcoming....
The behaviourists at work that I'm using gave it to me. It's bloody brilliant and makes so much sense.
I feel like such a fool!
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16-04-2009, 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge
Is there a difference between guiding your dog and telling them what to do?
Is it about mutual respect? Them for us and us for them?
Just thinking out loud and trying to get my head round it all. Part of the problems we have have stemmed from stupid me thinking that the best way to raise Woody is to be seen of the "pack leader". I don't even know where this came from but this is what I thought I had to do.
I'm reading a great booklet about it all and it's a real eye opener.
by guiding them your showing them what you want, whether thats by vocal means or hand signals. once they have understood what your asking then it makes life easier for them.
if you have no respect then the dog will be reluctant to want to please, just like the yobs of today.
respect is earnt not expected.
dont beat yourself up about woody, we've all made mistakes with our dogs and put those mistakes right.
you've done the right thing by him now and in time you'll see a huge difference.
well done you. xxxxxxx
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16-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge
This quote from the booklet sums up where I think I've gone wrong, perfectly:
''In summary, dogs live better lives when their owners are fair and consistent in their approach. They need to have set boundaries to help them function better within the confusing world in which we live. They need to know they can rely on us to be their guide and their teacher. We hope we have reassured you that your dog won't be asking you to subscribe to 'Tanks & Armaments Monthly', to help him plan his military campaign, and that he hasn't hotwired his Bonios to explode if you approach his basket without his permission.''
Seriously, they are fab.They talk absolute sense.
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16-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Shouldn't this all be obvious really?
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16-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge
Bloody hell!! Is this the book you've been telling me about? I knew I should have listened to you.
The behaviourists at work that I'm using gave it to me. It's bloody brilliant and makes so much sense.
I feel like such a fool!
Don't feel a fool.
Just glad you've found it, it is good isn't it?
Wait til I tell them the people at Blue Cross gave it to you!!!!
Bless 'em.They are brill (have I mentioned that before????
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16-04-2009, 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by hectorsmum
by guiding them your showing them what you want, whether thats by vocal means or hand signals. once they have understood what your asking then it makes life easier for them.
if you have no respect then the dog will be reluctant to want to please, just like the yobs of today.
respect is earnt not expected.
dont beat yourself up about woody, we've all made mistakes with our dogs and put those mistakes right.
you've done the right thing by him now and in time you'll see a huge difference.
well done you. xxxxxxx
Originally Posted by labradork
Try 'Don't Shoot the Dog!' by Karen Pryor. Great book - you'd like it!
Originally Posted by Ramble
They talk a load of sense. They are lovely people. I recommend them to everyone. I think they should give me money. They won't..I have to make do with them talking to me now their fame is spreading.
Seriously, they are fab.They talk absolute sense.
Originally Posted by Ramble
Yes it is.
Don't feel a fool.
Just glad you've found it, it is good isn't it?
Wait til I tell them the people at Blue Cross gave it to you!!!!
Bless 'em.They are brill (have I mentioned that before????
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Originally Posted by Lucky Star
http://www.deaf-dogs-help.co.uk/help/packleader.htm
Shouldn't this all be obvious really?
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16-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge
Thanks so much xx
Will have a look. Thanks.
Yes, they do ;o)
OK, calm down!! ;o) It's like everything I've been confused about and all the different things I've heard from so many people are no longer an issue. I now have a clear cut way to approach my dog and am certain that even that alone will help HIM too.
Yes. It is now ;o) Reminds me of something else I can't get my head round - gundog training Vs guide dog training annd the whole positive reinforcement thing. But that's a whole other thread ;o)
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