How positive are you?

I've posted a poll as these sort of debates can go south very quickly

So guys, we don't want a poll closed, but it's probably about where your line in the sand is with using 'corrections'

PS, it's a multiple choice anonymous poll

Can I just say I would like to attend the workshop of anyone who reckons they are purely positive?

indeed, one of the reasons for posting this is a recent karen pryor article (in fact i think you put the link up?) on the fact that it's not possible to be purely positve

i also had a 'debate' on another forum about the use of checks and prongs

so it did get me thinking - the line in the sand is different for everyone

I`ve put physical contact because I will shove a dog off my leg (for example) as a reaction to what they`re doing. I think dogs understand this.
But I wouldn`t initiate a shove - as for pushing a dog into a sit - because it simply doesn`t teach the dog anything.
I don`t think we should get too precious about it though. I`m sure we`ve all shoved a persistent dog away when we`re trying to enjoy a snack in front of the TV....

I will raise my voice a little to interrupt some behaviours (like tryin to raid the bin or counter surfing) but for others (like biting feet or jumping up) I will just stand still and ignore it. If she's really bein a little pita I might leave the room or physically pick her up and remove her from whatever she's doing. My older dogs don't really get up to much that needs correcting these days

I put raise my voice - but forgot to tick Physical contact. I will like C&D, shove them off my knee or out the door if they're p*ssing about, and we play fight (Does that count?)

Who ticked purely positive?

Working is everything

Of course stroking is physical contact...................
Massage is physical contact
Physiotherapy is physical contact

Using a lead is physical contact, tracking on a harness and line is physical contact..........

And duration is another factor

eg how long do you ignore a dog?

Unfortunately this poll is anonymous.

Having attended seminars and trained with some of the best clicker trainers (rather than clicker users) from all over the world, I have yet to meet one that IS purely positive as of course it is impossible as they have all agreed.

Hence why I (and many more people) would like to attend workshops with the trainers who claim to be PURELY positive.

Because I would love to learn how this is possible.