I don't know any personally, but my ma and pa had a pitbull cross. He was as thick as a brick, but very lovable and totally trustworthy with my daughter, who was then very young.

Brilliant ! I love it when the Mal hiding under the floppy bit of the castle comes popping out as it inflates !!

What comedians these lovely dogs are !! They remind me so much of Hal, who was very mally in his look and shape. He had that permanent laughing face too, bless him.

FAB to see those again Louise!!

I forgot they were there..I was looking for the one of CJ on a pony...(sadly she was PTS a week or so ago)

in order to do that, CM would need to be a dog trainer? as we have heard from many on here, hes not that, he doesnt train dogs to sit, heal come, so he would be a bit lost in that sinario.

though yes what you say is right, a dog can be trained very well to leave things alone, it doesnt take long.

yet if you talk to many top breeders of sibes and mals they dont let there dogs off lead in wide open areas, they normaly only do so in same enclosed areas due to the nature of the breed,

can you post a vid of your dog being so good in all these sinarios? I would love to see a sibe mal x who has no prey drive, does he chase bunnies?

why? why is it cruel, lets face it these dogs are not on leads all day every day like a chained up dog,

they are given a walk on lead, with as much freedom to roam and run in back gardens often,

when Im getting my dogs fit for shows, I often lead walk them, it builds great muscle.

E-collars are not meant to be used with a shock...you are meant to use the lowest 'stim' possible so that the dog barely notices....and then teach it....like touching the dog on the side...

THis was the way I saw it used. It was with a dog aggressive doberman who was on a last chance and due to be pts. The trainer I was working with used an e-collar on her. I still knew her 2 years later when she started competing at agility.

Knowing what I know now, I believe she could have been sorted out with other methods.

Let me re-iterate...I do not like them and would never use them, but I have read the training manuals (I have also had one strapped to me and used!)

Why?
Your dog is not part of that food chain. Your dog is fed. Your dog is a pet. Those birds are free. Your dog should not be allowed to frighten the ground nesting birds so much that they abandon a nest of chicks. How can you think that is okay?
Is it not now part of the deal in the countryside that dogs are actually walked on leads of no more than 1 metre in length during lambing time/nesting time? That covers May/June/July?
Exactly, another great post Mish
Apparently he is allowed to chase bunnies and will probably catch a bird at some point.

People have mentioned examples of ecollar training on here that clearly display that ecollar training is not reliable. I am pretty convinced Tango has had an ecollar on in her past and I have to say she is clueless,bless her. Apart from it being painful...I do not think it works in terms of long term training, unless a dog is made to be exceptionally fearful.

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Also, re Mini clarifying what Claire was saying - I'd have stepped in to do the same. Claire's post was on topic, and so you needed to be corrected or it wouldn't have been fair on Claire.

Also a general note to everyone, please stay on topic in the serious sections!!