Dogsey

Gawd - they couldn't resist getting that last pic in could they Difficult to comment on the actual story, and what might have led to the bite.

And this comes after a show winning Mastino bit a judge in the face. Two breeds known for aggression issues with aggression issues. Surprise! I guess they give CGC's to just any dog nowadays.

The judge didn't ordain that the dog be put down, and postponed the case. I wonder if it had been a normal, non show winning dog, would that have been his move? Pretty sure of the answer to that...

And the dog owner claimed they exaggerated the attack. There should not have been an attack to exaggerate if the dog was trained and socialized properly and wasn't "out of control".

No they don't just give a GC award to just any dog these days ...they give them to dogs that pass the test , bronze , silver or gold, NO test can evaluate what might happen between two dogs that my get to close to each other....

A bit of a sweeping statement to say the Akita and neo mastiff are known for aggression, mybe it's the ones you have come into contact with, but don't go lumping them all with the same brush.

I also doubt why an impartial judge would give a lighter sentence to some from the show world over anyone else.....maybe you could explain that one !

Sounds to me like someone got between two dogs who took a dislike to each other.

You have to remember many male dogs ( regardless of breed) who have been shown will have been used at stud, and as such one needs to keep your wits about you at all times, unfortunately we are ALL guilty at some time or other of taking ones eye off the ball, that's why accidents happen...

For the good citizen bronze award, your dog has to allow a stranger to go over them look in it's mouth, sit and stay away from the owner for 1 min.... I would think if you knew you had a aggressive dog, you would hardly put yourself in the way of facing a court case........

This sounds like an accident and it seems the judge may see it that way too, no ulterior motive behind it.

Actually, Akitas were bred to be fighting dogs, are banned in many places, and have quite a reputation behind them (that I did not create nor have any connection to). Mastinos were bred as guard dogs (human aggression) so yeah, no sweeping statements here.

Both dogs highly un- recommended in general as dogs for beginners or people without a profound knowledge of dogs. I have nothing to do with this, and I have not met either of these breeds in real life. Moving along!

I am aware of the CGC standards on all levels, and I'm also aware that all show dogs should adhere to them. Dog aggression is part of the testing, as well...

This dog had to have passed this test to have been given his award, and I wonder how he did so when he obviously RIGHT after passing, completely failed this part of the test That is why my statement about "giving any dogs" the certificates was made.

As for the ulterior motive, I'll only say I stand by my statement. I don't think a normal dog, who hadn't just gotten his CGC at Crufts would have been spared by the judge like this dog has been. I could be wrong but there is no way to know.

Not sure I actually understand what has gone on really.How did Crufts get involved, usually you take these tests at your training club, although they sometimes do the Bronze at breed shows, do they run the tests during Crufts, or had the dog won at Crufts in the breed class and had just completed the test at a show maybe! Was it the Gold test or maybe the Bronze.

I think it would be after a demonstration, the GCDS held displays at Crufts...my guess it was after such a display.

Oh right, it didn't seem to make sense to me, So both dogs would have completed their Gold some months ago and they hadn't just taken it that day.

Actually the Akita was bred as a hunting dog, not a fighting dog, not forgetting there are two defining types of Akita, so which one is the fighting dog? Same with the Neo, it was bred as a guard dog, not a fighting dog, and most importantly over many many hundreds of years, their temperaments have beed tempered down to the society we live it.....as with many breeds, what they were first bred to do is no longer viable to today's society.

And actually you are wrong show dogs do not have to adhere to ANY part of the dog citizen scheme.

You must also be aware that a dog can get on with one dog but not like another,

Your comment on the judge being lenient because it was at Crufts is ludicrous !!!

The dog in question will NOT have gained his qualification AT Crufts, he will have been doing a display in a ring along with many other dogs.....hardly a place to put an aggressive dog....

But you go on believing your version lol!!

Yes that's right, there was display for GCDS throughout the 4 days...so the dogs in question would have gained their award before Crufts......